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Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
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Date: 
Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:03:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:

Creators are not falsifyable. Therefore it takes no position on them.

(It so happens *I* take a position on them as implausible, but that is not
relevant to this discussion)

Would you say that it is possible to talk about events prior to the big bang
without referring to religion?

-John

Absolutely.  If the universe is cyclic, then simply everything collapsed
back into as small of a point as possible until the big bang was triggered.
An interesting question would be if the physical laws of the universe change
from one incarnation to another, but we have no way of addressing that from
where we stand at the moment.  If the big bang is a one shot affair, then
science really has no way of knowing that it this point (possibly never).  I
mean in the sense of a definitive answer.  There may simply be no before
(that's a time-related answer and time may not exist, so how can there be a
before?).  You can refer to either scenario via religion if you like, but
you don't *have* to.  Religion may indeed be the answer, but it is (like the
science) currently unverifiable.

Bruce



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  Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
 
(...) Would you say that it is possible to talk about events prior to the big bang without referring to religion? -John (22 years ago, 12-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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