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Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
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Fri, 12 Jul 2002 07:05:26 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Joseph Williams writes:
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> > Because "tribes in the stone age" is a severe value judgement. It
> > implies that they exist along a continuum that has us at the "good"
> > end and them at the "primitive" or less developed end. That's the
> > core of development theory.
> I had no idea that Stone Age was an unpc term. I must update my civilization
> terminolgy lexicon. Mabye metallurgically challenged? Not preferring alloys?
> Archae/anthro 'gists have been the worst ambassadors and tomb raiders since
> recorded history. But trying to erase the term Stone Age due to it's
> possible emotional distress it may inflict on those people who exist in that
> state is pretty grasping. I don't call sewage holes manholes anymore, I call
> them public access holes ;-) but I'm not about to adapt this ridiculous
> restraint.
The big problem with it has little to do with the "emotional distress"
it supposedly places on people (I said nothing about this, so I'm not
sure where you got it from). It has to do with the fallacious logic
that the creation of this linear scale of human "development" engenders,
and the poor policies/decisions/analyses that come out of that logic.
Those do the *real* damage, in terms of livelihoods, families, and
sometimes lives themselves.
And there's no relationship between attempting to debunk a bankrupt
conceptual framework and PC ridiculousness. Relating them is a red
herring. (In fact the whole category of "politically correct" is
nebulous, and mobilized only as a bugaboo by those who oppose some
adjustment near and dear to themselves.)
> > A reading suggestion for a really good (and accessible) book on the
> > characteristics of anthropo/archaeological research were before WWI
> > and why they were implicit in the domination and subjugation of
> > people--often horribly brutally--by Europeans and their proxies,
> > take a look at Annie Coombes's _Reinventing Africa_; there are
> > others I can recommend for specific issues in geography and
> > ethnology.
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> thankyou I'll take a look at that =)
It's got a lot of excellent graphics--if you're still into your
anthro/archaeo background the 19th-C. museum layout diagrams
are especially interesting.
> > The "spirit capture" by photography is a far cry from not under-
> > standing the representative value of a photograph, though. I
> > read the latter in your comment, not the former. I'm aware of
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> yes, that's all that I could reference without digging through my bookshelf,
> not that your not worth the effort of course =D~~ This exchanging of
> cultural objects even goes on today. The creators of the Rubik's cube when
> the were developing the Rubik Magic or Flat, gave it to a small Chinese
> village to disassemble and reassemble. And no, I don't have a citation for
> this but is this an example of post-modern aggressive racist displacement?
I'm completely lost as to where this vignette came from or what
purpose it's supposed to serve. Sounds like a pretty clear case
of basic cross-cultural interaction to me.
best
LFB
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| (...) There are actual groups of people for lack of a better term, we'll call a tribe, who having no technology beyond stone tool making and limited agriculture fall into a social development known as the Stone Age. These cultures have been having (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) There are actual groups of people for lack of a better term, we'll call a tribe, who having no technology beyond stone tool making and limited agriculture fall into a social development known as the Stone Age. These cultures have been having (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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