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Subject:	Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Mon, 8 Jul 2002 03:07:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: > > > What term would *you* use for a homicidal, innocent-butchering group who > > > believes that they are acting on behalf of God? > > > > Xtians? > > Cite please (let's see if you can keep it to within 100 years of today) Andrea Yates. Those fun fellows who murder physicians who perform abortions. Any number of Xtian Scientists or similar denominations forbidding medical care for children. Anyone, frankly, instructed by George W Bush to kill during the current "War on Terror;" since W has countless times allied us with God, and since the recent Congressional flap re: The Pledge indicates clearly that the legislature of this fine nation considers itself allied with God, soldiers fighting for this country are for all practical purposes acting on behalf of God, whether they want to or not. You'll probably say "yeah, but most of those people are crazy," or "soldiers aren't fighting for God," or "yeah, but they're not *real* Xtians." Baloney. > > Etc.? Yeah, how about atheists? Interesting that you would omit the biggest > butchers of all-time... Such as? Please don't bother me with Hitler(1), who was absolutely NOT an athiest, nor Stalin, who for all his "no-god-but-the-state" talk wasn't an athiest either. > Ah, we're *all* guilty of butchering innocent women and children, so how could > we condemn any one else who does? I would say that, once one accepts and admits one's own guilt, that person gains the perspective to condemn similar actions by others. Anyway, I don't know how many women and children you've butchered, but my count is exactly zero, so I'd hesitate to admit myself into your "all" category. Dave! (1) The mere *mentioning* of Hitler doesn't breach Godwin's law

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) It does HERE, Dave! We do things differently around here, and you'd be well served to keep that in mind, Dave! :-) (22 years ago, 8-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) <snip> K, this has been alluded to, and I personally have no personal stake in it for I have no problem getting my appendix ripped out if it has to be... But we know-better-than-you...your-kids' who say you 'religious-fanatics' should do as we (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) It's not baloney. What gets my undies in a bunch is when ignorant people group all Christians together. Because one sorely misguided wacko such as Andrea Yates, who claims to be a Christian offs all of her kids, that must mean that ALL (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) Cite please (let's see if you can keep it to within 100 years of today) (...) butchers of all-time... Ah, we're all guilty of butchering innocent women and children, so how could we condemn any one else who does? Welcome to Moral Relativism (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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