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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Date: 
Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:12:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:


Even here on
LUGNET some people are in possession of sensitive LEGO-related information
that they're not free to divulge.

I'm going to forgive your foray off-topic in this NG just this once if you tell
us and tell us NOW who knows what:-)


Appealing to athiests by taking the word 'God' out of institutional
vocabulary [raises no bar].

Again, you're mischaracterizing the issue.  It's not "athiests vs.
Christians."  It's people who favor separation of church and State vs.
people who don't object to State endorsement of religion.

I would say that your characterization is slightly off-- should be whether the
inclusion of "under God" in a voluntary pledge constitutes "establishment" of
religion in violation of the establishment clause of the First Amendment.

-John

I guess then that this is up to the Supreme Court to decide?

Wait, if the Pledge is 'voluntary' then it's Free Speech--those that don't
want to say it don't have to, which then legitimizes my other arguement--if
the kid gets picked on, it has nothing to do with the pledge at all.

Dave



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(...) Even here on (...) I'm going to forgive your foray off-topic in this NG just this once if you tell us and tell us NOW who knows what:-) (...) I would say that your characterization is slightly off-- should be whether the inclusion of "under (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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