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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Sat, 29 Jun 2002 02:54:25 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:

(unless one is an atheistic activist who goes about crying
about being persecuted for believing in nothing).

show a lack of understanding that atheists are *in fact* persecuted and
stigmatised on a regular basis in this country, and further, it implies that
the writer of such statements is OK with that if they are.

I read his statement and was at a loss for words.  I interpret it exactly as
you do.  I had no idea how to respond.  I guess you did a good job.  I
eventually came to believe (once more -- maybe I'll learn someday) that it is
impossible for me discuss with John.  As you say, there is a disconnect.

I am somewhat frightened by the off-handed nature of his advocacy for
discrimination.  I am dismayed that someone who seems functionally literate can
be so far off base.  And most of all, I am outraged that someone with such a
stance would dare to call themselves an American.  John obviously has no clue
about what is (or maybe, was) great in the American people.

There are very few things that I can imagine fighting and dying for.  But
protecting America from what John wants it to become is one.  Maybe I'll just
leave.  But maybe I will kill and die to protect my country.  I'd like to think
that's not needed.

Chris

P.S. (five minutes after writing the above) It's amazing how someone as
disenfranchised with our system as myself can actually feel that way.  Why
would I even consider fighting John and his ilk for this place?  Why not flee
to somewhere better?  But the notion of letting his tyrany go unchecked just
sticks in my craw.  Weird.



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  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
We have a disconnect here. There is something resistant to logical analysis in what John is saying. It just doesn't gibe with what the other side is saying, in that it shows a lack of understanding of the fundamental point. (...) And the above seems (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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