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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Sat, 29 Jun 2002 00:00:10 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
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> > > The capitalization indicates that it's a proper noun -- the name of a unique
> > > individual. Therefore, all gods are not God. Above, you say that I'm wrong,
> > > but without an explanation of it, I have to stick to my understanding. If I
> > > really am wrong, then please do explain how.
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> > I would say that it refers generically to God the creator, and if one is into
> > polytheism, then I'd say it refers to the highest ranking god one worships.
> If all of those gods are exactly equal, then I guess one has a dilemma.
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> What if one worships no god
Say again? How can one worship the absence of God?
or higher power?
Higher Power, God. Semantics here?
What then? You did not answer
> that point yet.
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> To say that the nation is under god (any god, your god, the hindu pantheon,
> the blue mud rubbers, Larritarianism, Mammon, whatever) is to establish
> religion. And that's wrong.
Well, I happen to believe that establishing a religion entails a little more
than that, and I think that was what the FFs had in mind-- a full,
state-sponsored religion.
Further, I think that they meant *a* particular religion, not religion in
general. Either way, the US gov has been pretty vigilant in protecting the
rights of various religious groups and their rights to worship freely, and I
don't see any evidence of religion being established.
Personally, I don't think that atheists apply because they don't constitute a
religion; practicing atheism is akin to doing nothing (unless one is an
atheistic activist who goes about crying about being persecuted for believing
in nothing).
-John
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| (...) What if one worships no god or higher power? What then? You did not answer that point yet. To say that the nation is under god (any god, your god, the hindu pantheon, the blue mud rubbers, Larritarianism, Mammon, whatever) is to establish (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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