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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Date: 
Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:08:25 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
> John:
> 
> The founding fathers were not religious and they were certainly not
> christians -- and that's putting it mildly. More anon...

I have not mentioned any particular religion so far, so for you to is a little
puzzling...

If the FF weren't religious, why envoke the name of God in the D of I?
> 
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > This country was *not* founded by a group of Atheists;
> 
> I am sure at least some critical members actually were; or if not, they were
> merely deists[1] -- which is sort of like being an agnostic, but with more
> contempt for the "creator."  Ultimately, I think it was politically
> expedient to not deny the existence of god -- it being a good way to wring
> needed support from "believers" (a.k.a. the lowest common denominator).

So why should *now* be any different? (As any politician will soon find out who
dares agree with this whacky ruling)
> 
> > At the core of our greatness lies the belief in one God.
> 
> Nonsense.  Our greatness, if there is such, lies in our political philosophy
> -- which has nothing to do with god.

At the core of our political philosophy is the believe in inalienable rights,
authored from God, not men. (from the DOI)
> 
> > This country is the way it is because it is the way it is-- change it at its
> > core and you get a different country.
> 
> Welcome to the new world.

Or, if you want a different world, go start a new one.

-John



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  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) It's pretty obvious what brands of religion are going to be the most concerned about this issue. And I don't feel like looking up all your past posts merely to discover that you ARE indeed some kind of christian, it is my assumption that you (...) (24 years ago, 28-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
John: The founding fathers were not religious and they were certainly not christians -- and that's putting it mildly. More anon... (...) I am sure at least some critical members actually were; or if not, they were merely deists[1] -- which is sort (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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