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Re: An armed society...
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Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:00:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> <snip>
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> > > > What if a society is mature enough to decide that guns have no place in the
> > > > community? Is that society no longer "free"?
> > > >
> > > > Scott A
> > >
> > > Of course they're still free... until someone comes and takes that freedom
> > > away. Then those "free" people might wish they had the means to keep that
> > > freedom.
> >
> > Strange that you view that as an eventuality rather than a possibility.
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> Yes, it is an eventuality. History repeats itself. Slavery in America
> would have been far different (and purhaps nonexistent) had the Africans
> been armed.
Nonsense.
> The Jews may have avoided the Holocaust. An entire nation may
> not have been forced to build the pyramids. History shows that an unarmed
> society is prone to enslavement. It matters not the technology level.
What about the native americans, were they not armed?
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> I
> > prefer life in a society where we are able to take the decision to live
> > largely without guns.
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> Where *you* have the decision or the government?
Not me personally. The community I live in.
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> Earlier, somebody said they needed a gun for
> > protection from the big bad government and his neighbours. That does not
> > sound like freedom to me – it sounds like the exact opposite.
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> It is *insurance*. Without an armed society to *assist* its government in
> the making of its laws, then the skies the limit as to how far the govenment
> goes.
Democracy is the limit. In the UK governments have fallen due to protests,
not armed rebellion.
When will the USA have its next schoolyard massacre?
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> I prefer to
> > keep Lego under my bed – not a gun. How about you? ;)
> >
> > Scott A
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> If push comes to shove, I'll take the gun. Those LEGO bricks are NOT going
> to keep me free.
They well help keep you mind free. I read they other day that that is not
all that easy in the USA:
Heaven help the American misfit
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4335425,00.html
Scott A
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| (...) Here you are being a fool. The Native Americans were lulled into a trust with the colonies. As time wore on, they began to depend on European lifestlyes, including hunting with rifles. Later as conflict grew, their population was largely (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Does Charles the First count as a fallen government and parliment as an armed rebellion? :-) Was America part of the UK and did the UK government (locally) fall because of the rebellion or was it never in power? Bruce (not being particularly (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) <snip> (...) Yes, it is an eventuality. History repeats itself. Slavery in America would have been far different (and purhaps nonexistent) had the Africans been armed. The Jews may have avoided the Holocaust. An entire nation may not have been (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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