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Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
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Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:21:37 GMT
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 15:06:30 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following
profundities...
Richard Dee wrote:

I do not have these federalist papers to which you refer, so
must trust your *interpretation* of them. Assuming a copy
exists on the 'net, I shall read them. (Open invitation for
someone to e-mail me a copy of them, text-format, zipped, blah, blah).

It does. A quick search will turn it up online. I shan't provide the
free good of doing your research for you in this case. I went out and
bought a copy in the bookstore because I wanted to be able to read it on
the plane. Note that the papers themselves are in the public domain at
this point, but the most popular edition has commentary and is therefore
copyrighted.

Requested on the off-chance someone had them? I do have a fair few
documents from wiretap.spies or whatever it was called, I downloaded
almost everything there. I doubt I have that one, though.
You should therefore be opposed to government-funded and -run
innoculation programs, which have helped to protect *your*
children from many diseases, as well as others'.

Your wish is granted. I am opposed. They're a free good, after all.

Hmm. Have you refunded the government for the service yet?

And by
innoculating the masses, have further helped to protect
your children.

Please show that this benefit can only be provided by having the
innoculation free. Certainly you're not going to allege that we could
not require everyone to get these, and pay for them themselves (with
those totally without funds getting it added to their back taxes they
need to work off)?

I can't. You and I both know that, but it is a means to ensure
as many as possible are innoculated. I wouldn't be totally opposed
to those with insurance, that the insurance cover it. For those
who can't, they should be innocu

However I dispute that 100% innoculation is required, or morally
justified. My sister-in-law, damnfool that she is, refused on moral
ground. Her kids and mine mix, and they may well die from diseases mie
are immmune to and spread to them. Oh well.

Or would you leave that, too, to
ability to pay and merit of position? (Class-based, non-
democratic, etc.) --

Please elaborate, I don't follow. How is merit "class-based" or
non-democratic?. We have equality of opportunity, or did, here.



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(...) It does. A quick search will turn it up online. I shan't provide the free good of doing your research for you in this case. I went out and bought a copy in the bookstore because I wanted to be able to read it on the plane. Note that the papers (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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