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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > > The punisher is not at fault for punishing criminals if the criminals • suffer.
> > >
> > > ...only if the punishment is just.
> >
> > There's no such thing. The punisher is at fault, in my opinon (but it can • only
> > _be_ opinion...there is no right answer here) for inflicting suffering only • if
> > the suffering could be avoided and the rights of the protected citizenry • still
> > maintained. Suffering above the minimum needed to keep The People safe is
> > evil.
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> I agree with you to very large extent. But when one is faced with grieving
> relatives it is very difficult to argue against the retribution argument.
Tough. I'd do it. We must be better than that.
> On
> a macro scale this was what was happening in the US in the days after the
> 11th; a lot of people wanting revenge and those shouting them down were
> viewed as “unpatriotic”.
I agree. I think I was nearly assaulted at work when an argument became heated
and when I was called unamerican, I responded that they (the people who think
we should kill them all (and give up our rights in the process)) were the ones
who were anti-american and didn't even understand that which makes the US
great.
> Some folk don’t understand the difference between
> patriotism and jingoism… and that is just my opinion.
I find myself in the queer position of agreeing with you completely.
It is a shame that anger clouds judgement.
Chris
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