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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > > The fence builder is not at fault for building fences if bandits cut
> > > themselves on the barbs.
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> > What if passers by cut themselves on the barbs?
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> That's easy. Either the fence builder built a hazardous obstruction on land
> not his own, or the passer by was trespassing.
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> > > The punisher is not at fault for punishing criminals if the criminals suffer.
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> > ...only if the punishment is just.
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> There's no such thing. The punisher is at fault, in my opinon (but it can only
> _be_ opinion...there is no right answer here) for inflicting suffering only if
> the suffering could be avoided and the rights of the protected citizenry still
> maintained. Suffering above the minimum needed to keep The People safe is
> evil.
I agree with you to very large extent. But when one is faced with grieving
relatives it is very difficult to argue against the retribution argument. On
a macro scale this was what was happening in the US in the days after the
11th; a lot of people wanting revenge and those shouting them down were
viewed as “unpatriotic”. Some folk don’t understand the difference between
patriotism and jingoism… and that is just my opinion.
Scott A
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| (...) suffer. (...) only (...) if (...) still (...) Tough. I'd do it. We must be better than that. (...) I agree. I think I was nearly assaulted at work when an argument became heated and when I was called unamerican, I responded that they (the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) That's easy. Either the fence builder built a hazardous obstruction on land not his own, or the passer by was trespassing. (...) There's no such thing. The punisher is at fault, in my opinon (but it can only _be_ opinion...there is no right (...) (23 years ago, 5-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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