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Re: Infinite Justice
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Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:22:44 GMT
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Now, see... this is the kind of stuff that I shouldn't be reading, mostly
because it makes sense.

Ignorance is strength... this is excatly what my current pastor has been
preaching lately, not in those terms of course.

Oh, well, what can be done?

I used to think that overthrowing the government would suffice.  But these
days I think differently...

If the government could be overthrown, who would take it back up?  what
about the corporate entities?  Would they stand by and watch their power and
influence dissipate?  Not likely, they would either raze paid armies of
their own, or move to other nations, thereby bankrupting America... it would
be the wild west all over again it seems to me.

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
Infinite Justice.

Has anyone noticed the peculiar nature of those words?  It sounds very like
what was imagined as a perpetual war in the essay within a novel, "The
Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism" by Emmanual Goldstein that
resides within the novel "1984" By George Orwell.

War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.

Just remember, in the novel there is no Goldstein, only O'Brien.

"We are the priests of power -- do not forget this, Winston.  Always there
will be the intoxication of power...If you want a picture of the future,
imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever."

Welcome to the North American Game Preserve...

How much will we sacrifice to engage the faceless enemy? A war on terrorism
can go on almost forever, certainly at least until the state is safe again,
right?  But the state is never safe...

Please take this opportunity to reread the Bill of Rights:

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public
purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a
national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the
hands of the State.

8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies,
especially for agriculture.

7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State,
the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the
soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual
abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable
distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of
children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with
industrial production, etc. etc.

It's my theory that the war and power mongers can't help but occasionally
reveal the truth of what they are doing.  They can't help it, just as some
criminals cannot help it when they return to the scenes of their crimes.
They wish to be admired for their horrors if they cannot be admired for
anything else.

Infinite Justice, indeed!  I'm sorry, but I am literally Rolling On The
Laughing Out Loud.

-- Hop-Frog (I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth.  Right -- as if anyone actually could...)



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Infinite Justice. Has anyone noticed the peculiar nature of those words? It sounds very like what was imagined as a perpetual war in the essay within a novel, "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism" by Emmanual Goldstein that resides (...) (23 years ago, 20-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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