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Subject: 
Re: National vote on handguns?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:21:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:

This does not make 100% sense to me - getting rid of a lot of laws only to
referendum them back. Why not just Constitutional-ise referenda, and use
them to remove/add laws?

The reason that I think it makes sense is that if it took 75% of the people to
agree, most of them wouldn't be voted back in place.

  Actually, the reason it *doesn't* make sense is that you require a 75%
consensus.  In a group of just 12 people it's hard to get 75% agreement on
what kind of pizza to get; do you honestly expect that *any* issue, when put
before a vote by the entire US voting populace, will pass?  That goes for
every law, from "don't steal soap from the motel" to "don't kill someone for
beating you at checkers."

We would have the obvious victimizations illegal and some meta-organizational
issues agreed to, and that's about all.  Just the way it should be.

  What exactly, under a 75% voting majority opinion, is an "obvious
victimization?"  It seems that we can't establish agreement on
meta-organizational issues in the first place, and in any case, how would we
document such "agreement?"  By a plurality?  By the loudest voice?

     Dave!



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(...) to (...) Sure. I don't want to invest a lot in defense of this system that I created in four seconds while reading the note before, but I do actually think that part of it has merit. I'm sure that 75% of us would agree that stealing and (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) should (...) order (...) The reason that I think it makes sense is that if it took 75% of the people to agree, most of them wouldn't be voted back in place. We would have the obvious victimizations illegal and some meta-organizational issues (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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