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Re: Handgun Death Rate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:16:55 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jason J. Railton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > Well, I know your post must have been a joke by the tone you took, but.....
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> You are joking, I presume?
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> > Outlaw handguns, and only outlaws will have them. And all that would do is
> > make rifles and shotguns "the firearm of choice in violent crimes and
> > murders" sooner or later.
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> Yet, if you arm everyone you get less violence? No. What you get is every
> petty crime or malicious act escalating rapidly into a violent and murderous
> one. You get negligible non-violent crime rates, and huge violent crime
> rates, as per another thread around here.
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> Anyway, the reason handguns are the firearm of choice is because they are
> easily concealed. Rifles and shotguns are not. And, if handguns are
> outlawed, you have the power to confiscate them before they are used.
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> > I don't own a single gun. YET. But don't try to legislate me out of my right
> > to own one (one of the reasons I'll move out of CA sooner or later is all the
> > gun legislation the ******** keep trying to pass).
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> What right do you have to own one? What right do you have to possess a
> device designed and owned solely for the purpose of killing another human
> being? What basic human need or freedom does this provide you with?
It could be argued that handgun/gun ownership actually restricts freedoms. I
would feel a little oppressed if I knew that behind the twitching curtains
in my area lurked a potential gun. Or if during an argument in a bar between
two strangers a gun could be pulled.
Scott A
> And that's two posts where people have used unacceptable language on this
> newsgroup. And you choose to do so whilst trying to convince us that you
> can be trusted with a gun?
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> Jason J Railton
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| (...) I don't know if that's a tenable stance; one could as easily argue that a knife-wielding madman lurks in the bushes, but that doesn't mean we should outlaw knives *or* bushes. The only material difference between a gun and a knife (or a club, (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You are joking, I presume? (...) Yet, if you arm everyone you get less violence? No. What you get is every petty crime or malicious act escalating rapidly into a violent and murderous one. You get negligible non-violent crime rates, and huge (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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