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Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
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Thu, 5 Jul 2001 01:17:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
So morality is only useful insofar as how we judge ourselves? It would be
conceited, rude, and incorrect to assume me being immoral for torturing a
baby?

You are taking an argument to its illogical extreme.

Excellent. As I've advocated many times, taking something to the extreme is
the only way to test its validity. If it doesn't hold at the extremes, it
doesn't hold.

Hmmm. Maybe. But I'd use the example of Newtonian physics to say even though
it doesn't hold in extreme conditions, it's generally "good enough" for
everyday life. Maybe that also holds for this situation...

Working the analogy a bit more, Newtonian physics is valid in a certain
regime. The "extreme conditions" where it is invalid are outside that
regime. Set the boundary conditions correctly and everything's fine. Can we
do that here? (I tend to think we can... canonical example being the yelling
of "fire" in a crowded theatre isn't protected free speech and the "boundary
conditions" tell you why it isn't)

So what are they in this case?

++Lar



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  Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) Use salt as needed... Following that statement, would you also conclude that "might makes right?" You stated previously that we'd be "merely animal" to follow that notion, but maybe you'd now say it's situational? Or were you referring to (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Validity testing (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?)
 
(...) Hmmm. Maybe. But I'd use the example of Newtonian physics to say even though it doesn't hold in extreme conditions, it's generally "good enough" for everyday life. Maybe that also holds for this situation... ROSCO (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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