 | | Re: 3 Question (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?) —Dave Schuler
| | | | (...) You're creating a false dichotomy between a la "it must happen at specific point X, or else it cannot happen at all." This is simply untrue. I would assert that, far from occuring at a single, threshhold point, morality is a system of values (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | | | | | | | | Re: 3 Question (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?) —David Eaton
| | | | | (...) I whole-heartedly agree. However, in order to argue that animals do *NOT* have it and that humans *DO*, something must be different. But I don't argue that. Accepting the premise that animals *DON'T*, I hold that at some *point*, morality (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: 3 Question (was: Did animals have rights before we invented rights?) —David Eaton
| | | | | (...) Before someone points out my error, I'll just correct myself here. It can be argued, and come to think of it, I think *should* be argued that self-consciousness *is* the prerequisite (sp?) of which I was speaking-- I merely was assuming a (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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