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Re: Is this sexism?
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Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:47:58 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> I would consider it sexist. I have no problem with giving the time off, but >to be fair you'd have to give men the same time off.
How do you feel about maternity leave? Sexist? Should the husband get the
same time off as the woman? Should they be paid? And yes, I do know some
companies DO allow men to get time off. But it's certainly a lot more rare.
I guess my point is I don't really think of it as being sexist because the
actual issue isn't someone's sex, it's their severity of physical ailment
which may or may not affect their work performance. It just happens to be
the case that women get it, and not men. And yes, if it *does* negatively
affect their work performance, then either they need to be negatively
compensated, or those who don't use it should be positively compensated.
Whether that's by extra time off, money, etc, is fair game to be decided,
but it needs to be there to reflect the quality of work. If it *doesn't*
affect their work performance (for some jobs this would be true), then no
compensation is needed. IMHO.
> There are all sorts of physical ailments that people have that require time
> off, and most companies don't give paid time off for those ailments except
> under extreme circumstances (unless they have PTO built into the general pay
> structure).
Agreed. I interpret the question as "Is PMS a severe enough issue for some
such as to deserve sick leave?" And you say no. And I'm 90% with you on that
one. Although were I in charge of a company's policy on the matter, I might
or might not decide that the policy was fair for particular people. But as
general legislation, I agree 100%.
> And considering it unpaid leave still doesn't totally solve the problem, as
> unpaid or not, in many cases, when one is absent, it affects your coworkers
> negatively.
Well, I would argue that would be true only for some jobs. And if it *is*
the case (that unpaid leave doesn't solve the problem), then adequate
compensation needs to exist elsewhere within the policy description in order
to make it fair, I'd say.
$.02,
DaveE
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| (...) Yes, yes, and no. This should really be in a separate thread, but... Women usually CHOOSE to get pregnant. I don't think they should get PAID time off for a medical condition they CHOSE to have. I also don't think parents should get paid Flex (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| I would consider it sexist. I have no problem with giving the time off, but to be fair you'd have to give men the same time off. There are all sorts of physical ailments that people have that require time off, and most companies don't give paid time (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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