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Re: Rolling Blackouts
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Mon, 4 Jun 2001 03:47:57 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher Tracey writes:
> > Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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> > > because we are in a mixed economy where a lot of the indirect costs never
> > > get assessed.
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> > Larry, I think I understand what your saying here, but could flesh it
> > out a bit (for the record). Would Libertopia assess all the costs, or
> > at least do a better job at it?
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> Remember Libertopia isn't a "utopia" so isn't perfect. But ya, that's the
> idea. The thought is that strict liability with no dodging responsibility
> behind corporate shells would lead to a better assessment of costs.
> > The political parties I'm most
> > associated with think their solutions to the world's problems will fix
> > everyhthing in some form or the other.
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> Which parties are you most associated with? I don't think the LP says that
> the LP approach fixes everything all at once, or even ever, at least not
> exactly. There will still be unfairness in the world, and pain and
> suffering. Just less. Theoretically.
Most of the time, people seem to associate me with the commies,
socialists, and/or anarchists(1). Probably because of my involvement in
'punk rock scene'. I don't like to categorize myself with any of them-
not because I don't believe in parts of what they say but rather because
I think it's rather counter productive to canalize a course of action
into political views. I hope that sentence makes some sort of sense.
I'm more for cooperation. For instance, this particular subthread(the
whole migratory issue) has opened many new viewpoints for many of us
from all different affilations. It's past time for playing sides.
Like the LP these views probably don't claim to create utopia
automatically. Individual variance creates the problems that
destabilize each system. Even communism would work on a small scale,
where everyone wanted it(2). I was thinking about this today when I
found an old tape with an anarchist folk song on it called 'dancing on
the ruins of multinational corporations'. it's a pretty cool song, but
the ideas put forth in it that the world would be a better place when
the corps are gone didn't make sense to me anymore. a good bit of the
world's horrors don't stem from corporate greed.
Personally, I'm for whatever works. If you can solve a problem by
common ownership- go for it. If private enterprise can do it- full
speed ahead. sense and nonsense.
i'll elaborate more tomorrow.
-chris
1- the nice kind that are your neighbors- not the beerswilling statue
vandalizing kind the media portrays.
2- that's going to open a can of worms.
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| (...) No worms, I dig what you're saying here. I think America has an aversion to the word "communism" and is stuck on the Cold War model of an oppressive "big brother", totalitarian state. Let's pretend there was never a Stalin or Mao and address (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Remember Libertopia isn't a "utopia" so isn't perfect. But ya, that's the idea. The thought is that strict liability with no dodging responsibility behind corporate shells would lead to a better assessment of costs. (...) Which parties are you (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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