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Re: A question of remembrance...
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Wed, 25 Apr 2001 04:43:30 GMT
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I was thinking of not putting anything into this thread. Tough to stay out
of though.
Lots of good points are being made by all parties and clearly this is a
nicely behaved and well reasoned thread, kudos to all posters.
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > I don't see how representing the plight of a specific group of people
> > reduces that plight to a cliche.
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> I believe that an omission is a lie. So, to omit the whole history of the
> Holocaust and focus only on one group of people that suffered and died, and
> to repeat and repeat only that part of the history (allowing the other stats
> to be obscured) only contributes to make it cliche.
Good point. But where do you draw the line? Stalin caused 20 million of his
own people to be exterminated, but since history IS written by the victors,
it's not exactly a well known fact (and the American intelligentsia of the
1930s has some blood on their hands as well for ignoring it). Does that make
the fact that many millions more died during the war at the hands of the
Germans a lie? Not. Just not the whole truth.
It is valid to circumscribe what you talk about else you always have to talk
about every bad thing that happened to everyone. Dilutes focus. We do need
to ensure that the 12 million that died in the Holocaust are not forgotten
and that Never Again! is more than just a catchy phrase. But how?
This is, as I have said before, an especially tough problem for Libertarians
to deal with, how do you reconcile not wanting to be the worlds policeman
with the need to stamp out tyranny when it gets out of hand?
There are things that can be done... making sure you don't have arms
embargoes that hurt the victims more than the oppressors, not standing in
the way of volunteers that want to go help the victims, etc. But no tyranny
can be stopped before ANY victim falls. Not practical unless you cede
universal control to a world government and then you've just set up a bigger
potential tyranny with no check.
Hence my sense that small countries, lots and lots of them, are better than
a few big ones. No one country can get the resources to do 8 digits worth of
murder if it has a standing army of only 1000 people.
++Lar
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| (...) I believe that an omission is a lie. So, to omit the whole history of the Holocaust and focus only on one group of people that suffered and died, and to repeat and repeat only that part of the history (allowing the other stats to be obscured) (...) (23 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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