|  |  | Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog) 
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| (...) Was that the kind with the retro-firing thrusters? If so, I seem to remember some one incident in which the jets were fired while the craft was too high above the runway, and it crashed. Do I recall correctly? Was that a herc? Do they still (...)   (25 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) 
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|  |  | Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog) 
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| (...) that the CIA really liked using little Cessna like planes that had an incredible lift to wingspan ratio and could fly at 35mph. I got to watch one take off one day and it took off on a length of runway shorter than my driveway. In terms of (...)   (25 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) 
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|  |  | Re: I'm lucky to be alive 
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| (...) Surely you must recognize the difference between a defective product (tires) which, upon catastrophic failure, directly cause an accident and a product (SUV's) whose design, in the event of an accident, may be unsafe. The high- bumper in (...)   (25 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) 
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|  |  | Re: I'm lucky to be alive 
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| (...) I don't understand why more attention isn't focused on this issue. A few Firestone's wreak some SUVs and you're got a major crisis, but those same SUVs are a major hazard to normal vehicles and there seems to be far less concern about that. (...)   (25 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) 
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|  |  | Re: Secret Agent Theme for 2001? (was: Re: New S@H Catalog) 
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| (...) That could be a spectator sport, not unlike dropping large melons from the rooftops of tall buildings. "I believe it will land some- where inside this 200-km circle..." (...) commented that the CIA really liked using little Cessna like planes (...)   (25 years ago, 8-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) 
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