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  Re: Overview of Changes to Legal Rights
 
(...) Actually, as soon as it gets passed, the Supreme Court couldn't rule it unconstitutional. They can't do that until it is an issue in a case they hear. We would have to wait for somebody to be arrested via a law enacted by that bill. Then they (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Tribute to Sept 11, 2001
 
I made my own tribute: (URL) America Always Stand Tall (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Overview of Changes to Legal Rights
 
(...) For those of you who, like me, had trouble copying and pasting this link: (URL) William R Ward bill@wards.net (URL) Verbing weirds language. --Calvin (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TJ acknowledged a Creator in DoI (was: Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) The value of the dollar was once based on the value of gold. It is now based on absolutely nothing but the will of the people to keep it going. Similarly, our "inalienable rights" were originally based on the commonly-held mythology of a God (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) They didn't say "God." The closest they got was "Creator." I think that's a big difference. --Bill. (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) I don't see what relevance this has to anything I said. (...) Why? --Bill. (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) There is nothing in the Constitution about supporting a hobby or game. There is something about supporting a religion. And that's how it should be - religion is a much more controversial topic than chess or cameras. --Bill. (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) But if I want to say the *official* pledge, then by definition I have no choice but to speak the phrase. That's the problem, and, in addition, one's choice not to say the *official* pledge is easily construed as a lack of patriotism, which is (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) but wouldn't that fact that the state "asked" that you say the words bad enough? I will have to say the pledge of allegance when I become a naturalized citizen. Do you think I won't say "under god", when the INS officer asks me to? Of course I (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: TJ acknowledged a Creator in DoI (was: Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
John: You are looking at past history and past rhetoric with blinders on. Part of The Enlightenment project was to break with the "divine right of kings." That's why there is language of that type floating around. I am not saying that there weren't (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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