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Re: Problems with Jay Sim
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lugnet.market.brickshops
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Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:29:34 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Jay Sim writes:
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> > First thing I can't believe this was posted on Lugnet.
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> I would tend to agree that posting here about deals gone awry should be a
> very last resort. However I'm going to use this post to make a few comments
> about deal completion (and I XFUT to theory and brickshops) which are
> addressed to everyone, not specifically to Jay.
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> > I think as a buyer, a very picky buyer I have all the rights to think over
> > any deals I make especially over the internet/email. Also when my funds get
> > distributed for any emergency
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> Agreed. Unexpected emergencies HAVE to take precedence and I think all good
> sellers understand this and will gladly cancel the deal.
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> > or just because,
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> Disagree. I don't know where this deal was started, but on BrickLink, the
> terms of service are quite clear. A deal is a deal, and wanting to get out
> of the deal on a whim ("just because") is NOT an acceptable thing to do.
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> You (all readers, not just Jay) will be branded, and rightly so, as a bad
> buyer, if you consistently enter into deals, make a committment to the
> seller to buy something, and then capriciously change your mind.
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> Perhaps "just because" wasn't quite what you meant, Jay. But the hobby
> doesn't need buyers who make a habit of changing their mind for no reason at
> all.
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> Everyone should think carefully about making their commitment to buy, and
> once they make it, stick to it, unless there is some very serious reason (it
> is very regrettable that something bad happened to your dog, Jay. I hope
> your dog gets better, but it's a perfect example of a serious and acceptable
> reason to cancel in my book) not to do so.
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> Buyers are not dealing with retail stores, where returning something because
> they didn't like it or changed your mind is OK or even expected... they're
> dealing with fellow hobbyists who are significantly negatively impacted when
> people waste their time this way. Please keep that in mind.
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> > I should have all rights to cancel.
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> As I said, I don't completely agree. Customer service is important and
> you'll find the vast majority of sellers do want buyers to be happy and will
> take whatever reasonable steps they can, but you're not dealing with retail
> stores. Please remember that.
I was just about to say the same thing! A buyer that orders from a seller
on either Bricklink or eBay HAS to pay for the item and shipping. It's a
contract. Unless a good reason comes up, an emergency (which the seller
will have to believe because there are no ways of checking, but thrust is
important in these deals), then the seller will have the right to label the
buyer as a bad one if the buyer refuses to go on with the deal.
Once it is established that the 2 parties won't solve the problem, which
seems not to be the case here, then, IMO, the seller has the right to let
people know about it, but on the correct website (why use lugnet when the
deal is on bricklink or ebay?). Apples and oranges shouldn't go together.
Let's try to keep this community about news and fun, not about problems with
other members on other websites.
Terry
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| Just because wasn't quite what I meant... I was thinking in terms of giving good reasons but instead "just because" came thru my typing. In most cases I agree with Terry on going through with a deal. Main reason I replied to the original post on (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.market.brickshops)
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