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!!! Currently showing Not Available / no picture / no price, but the names have now been uploaded: KT103 Large Train Engine Blue KT104 Large Train Engine Green KT105 Large Train Engine Black KT106 Large Train Engine Brown KT107 Large Train Engine (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.trains)
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"Jon D Hayward" <JonDHayward@Yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:GC8nBp.DK8@lugnet.com... (...) have (...) bit of a disappointment really 2 trains (one large, one small), 1 tender, choice of 5 colours Motor and Battery extra Hardly 'customized', and (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.trains)
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"Lawrence Wilkes" <lawrence@thewilkesf...rve.co.uk> wrote in > (...) Sorry, I meant 'motor and light extra' regards lawrence (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.trains)
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(...) <snip> With no pictures, and no prices, I'd say that they have missed their own deadline again. People may buy what they can't see, but you can't buy something with out a price. Frankly, as a customer, I'm dissapointed but only marginally so. (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.trains)
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(...) Sorry but this just emphasizes TLC's lack of sophistication in developing their web site. It's extremely unprofesional to put something like this up. All the broken links to pictures makes the site look worse than it already is. If something (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Same here. I'm disappointed but only marginally so. I'm just happy that we are getting more train stuff! Would I like to be able to see everything, right now? Well of course I would, but I don't mind waiting a bit longer as long as the stuff (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.trains)
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(...) True enough, but I'm able to view at least most of the new products (haven't yet checked them all, and some of the alternate images aren't "available"). Dave! (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Now that the pictures can be seen, one can notice a difference between the small engine with tender and the small engine without tender. If you notice, the small engine without tender does NOT have the numer 317 on the side. Instead of the 317 (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) They look great indeed, I like the small ones with tender. I am though disapointed that there are no special train parts like doors or windows, which would make them great sets for parts. They also added the electric set, so - please give us (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Well they do have the small black "train" windows on the cab (kind of hard to see in the pictures) so there are some "special" pieces...but of course they don't have the glass in the windows. jt (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yes, the airplane windows are great! And don't forget the black 2x2 domes-- that is a new color for that element and a *great* part for creating Steam engines:-) -John (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You could get coaches from BricWorx. Dwayne Towell www.bricworx.com FUT: lugnet.shopping (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) That's the most interesting question in the whole discussion: is there a classic window in 2x2 (that would be great!!)? Or is it a airplane window (the window area looks to big for that..)? The pictures are modified, so you cannot guess if (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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...and now that they're available, I've received an e-mail from S@H Europe (in reply to my "where are they?" e-mail this morning): <snip> There are lots more to come too, so keep checking the website! <un-snip> Just Imagine .oO ;-) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.trains)
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(...) I don't know if they modified the design since the the S@H catalogs came out, but you can see the window(s) very clearly in this picture: (URL) guess some would call them "airplane" windows, but to me all windows are "train" windows :) It (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Cheek. They did that to me when I asked about train parts and other Service Packs, except that took over a fortnight. Jason J Railton (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.loc.uk)
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What's all the fuss about? They don't look great to me. They look like those kiddy rides you find in theme parks to me. A steam train should have cilinders, pushrods etcetera. These are on bogey's from a Diesel. Also, they lack detail; half the (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I'm sorry you feel that way. To me, anything new in the train line is worth a fuss. JMHO Katie (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hear, hear! If it's a choice between the new sets and the Prefab Jr. Express, I'll take the new sets. No, they're not perfect, but they look considerably better than what we've seen lately. Dave! (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:GC9C5G.H4v@lugnet.com... (...) those (...) worth a (...) I agree - new stuff is always good news. FWIW - you can order one from S@H - they are back ordered and expected into their wharehouse (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Drats! I can't make up my mind which ones I want to start with. Otherwise I would have been #2 right behind you. Katie (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Do not know if anybody else noticed or not, but all 4 engines are different. The ones without tender are open cab and the ones with tender are enclosed cab. Also, the placement of the 317 is slightly different Thanx, Mark Millère LUGnet # 525 (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I saw that. The ones with tenders are open at the rear, whereas the others have an inverted sloping coal scuttle on the back, and redesigned open sides. Whilst this is an interesting design (particularly on the large one), I think the bigger (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It says May 23rd! How Come everything I'm gonna order is back ordered? When i last ordered i decided not to add the black wagon plate, theni found out it was back ordered, i'm glad, cause then i would have had to wait for it. Is it just me or (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I agree. And to get the airplane windows, you must get the largest version. (...) That's good-- more American that way:-) (...) I think that they are all the exact same photograph with the colors actually altered in Photoshop or something. (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It's just you;-) (...) To which diesels are you referring? -John (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) yeah! I'm looking at only the ones with tenders, the non-tender ones look cheep. BTW where's RED, Yellow, & Orange? I'd like a red one for the tender i have sitting here. Josh (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I'm waiting for some. Josh (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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Also new color parts includes the 1x1 brick with handle in green and brown, inverse brown slope (another source for green, also). Looks like another source for black door rails and low slope train roofs. (...) (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Feel free to provide a cite. The two truck (larger) one looks a bit like a Shay (in which case the background ought to be a forest, with logging going on) but other than that, no. ++Lar (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) hey with a dummy technic drive, it could be one! Josh (24 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, Shays, Heislers, and Climaxes have been used for mining also. Certainly the bulk of Shays served in the woods, but I think at least some served in the South West. I must admit that "geared loco" jumped into my mind quickly when I saw the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Move the boiler offcenter to make it more authentic, but yes, that is what struck me about it when I first saw it. ++Lar (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Not much room when you're..... uh, nevermind;-) {:^D John (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It's not so much the design as the colour scheme. The configuration of the ones without tenders is pretty European, but the large cabs on the tender engines and the panelled style is typically American - European engines tended to be more (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) But the Thatcher Perkins is, like, more than twice as large as today's trains. And it still doesn't implement the correct kind of pushrod/cylinder movement. If a LEGO set was perfect to the degree that there wasn't any room to improve it, (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) no. The two truck one looks more like a Mallet. Never mind a shay, which Ron Kittle (?) built _ages_ ago :) James (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) We're not arguing about anything important. They are what they are. I think we could agree that they're not representative of anything in particular. That said, you're wrong. :-) Let's put it this way. To this American, they don't look (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Well, perhaps you should look at it from a sales perspective. Diesel engines (IMO) look like a shoebox with wheels. The trains currently on shop.lego.com are far more interesting to look at (IMO) than a diesel engine would be. Things that (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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[snip] (...) Wow! Those are the price ranges I was hoping for but I did not expect them. Guess I will be ear marking money for several of those just for parts. Woo Hoo! -Mike Petrucelli aka Lord Insanity (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hey, speaking of Ron and his awesome Shay, it was a pleasure for me to meet him and see his MOC in person at the Kidvention last summer. His Shay has working pistons and all. Are there pics of it on the web somewhere? -John (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) LOL You are SOOOOO wrong! (IMNSHO;-) (...) You are between 1st and 2nd and the throw to home has been cut off. This is what happens when muffinheads start talking trains;-) -John (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Yeah, yeah, we know. They're not eight-wide. 8^) (...) If I may make a guess, though, Muffinhead isn't speaking about the scrupulous LEGO representation of detailed trains as they appear in the real world; he's saying that the average (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The simple answer is- WHO CARES? I don't :) Mind you, some have said that I have steam in my blood... Coughs and Sneezles Spread Disezles :) Some nice Co-Bo or similer oddball diesels, along with a SD 9 would be nice (Or a SD7, anything with (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You're still bitter because diesels marked the end of steam-- get over it! ;-) (...) Thank you, Ben. Or was it Bill? Those two can be very aggravating-- just ask Boco... (...) Why 6? A B truck is a natural, given the 9 volt motor... (...) And (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) You are so right. Mundanes want cute. They think trains are cute things that puff. Think Little Engine that Could. Think Thomas!!! (every show should have a Thomas...) In fact, in this month's TRAINS, REAL railroad museums were talking about (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Agreed. Don't forget that in the process of helping to promote LTC's at train shows, LEGO gets to send a postcard with a picture of one of these cute trains to lots and lots of people. I don't think that's an accident, neh? FWIW, I'm not a (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Oh no I'm not. Oh yes you are. That's the way to do it! etc. They're just too mixed, so they look foreign to everyone instead of familiar. (...) Too right you're - hang on - No, forget it. Well, you don't even give Europe a capital 'E'. Sulk. (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Quite simple: The UK were there first. The diesel engines for the CN loco's came from Hunslet, and Hunslet built the first really successful DE's in the world, for some of the South American railways. I don't argue the impossible, nothing is (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Mundanes? Er --wha? Oh... for a moment there, I thought this newsgroup had accidentally got cross-posted to lugnet.off-topic.sca ;^D ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head -- Mark's Lego(R) Creations (URL) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yeah, you got it! North America (including Mexico) has alot of huge locos, and there are some intersting ones they could build too. Josh (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Hey, are you a SCAdian? I wonder how many cross-overs there are between the two hobbies? I know that several of the local SCAdians (8 or 9, just off the top of my head) are also AFOLs to one degree or another (none online)... How many AFOL's (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Thats true, and they could do that with diesels too. Look at a SD40-2F ((URL) thats interesting, and i know i'd but one! Josh (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) IMO they are representative of "Lego". Josh (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) IMO A true trainman lieks how a Diesel looks and how a Steam Engine looks, he/she can apreciate both. Josh (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I am not, but one of my friends is. :^) ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I got to ask, whats that? Josh (...) (24 years ago, 24-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Mark Sandlin wrote in message ... (...) newsgroup had (...) Hey, our Baron uses Lego when he gives classes on castle building and forification. Lego from his own collection :-) I take sets for parting out, to rapier practice when I chauffeur my (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Don't mess with Big Diesel! -Harvey (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) LOL Chris (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) LOL Chris (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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James Brown wrote in message ... (...) around (...) Guilty as charged (but you knew that :-) ). We are definitely going to Clinton this year, plan is to go up the weekend before and be there the whole work week (which is in many ways more fun that (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I agree - We absolutely should have a train there that matches the postcard. People will be _expecting_ it. Probably not as part of the actual layout though IMO. SRC (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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(...) A member (or just participant) in the Society for Creative Anachronism. We go out and do all things medieval except the bad parts. (unless you count politics as one of the bad parts, 'cause we do that in spades...) James (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Here's hoping! Although our situations are reversed... this year, *I'm* the guy who's not sure he can make it... I don't have a lot of holiday time available this year, and I'm not likely to be popular if I grab yet another long weekend. That (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ah i get it now, thanks! Josh (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Have not, will too, didn't either! (...) Should have let me have last word. Siggy doesn't count. :-) ++Lar (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) And when he says _all things_, he means all things. They're planning on killing off 1/3-1/2 of their members with the plague and then switching to all things Renaissance... :) -JDF (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Note that mundanes is a term also used by SF Fans (interesting question, where was it first used? There's a large crossover between SCA and SF fandom, but SF fandom is definitely older). (...) I was at one time, but I got better... Actually, (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I agree with you--one bad apple. The absolute limit of my tolerance anymore is four days at Pennsic; beyond that, I can't be bothered with the in-fighting, pettiness, and back-stabbing rampant in the SCA. It cracks me up that the SCA is by (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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James Brown wrote in message ... (...) Yikes! And camping in those conditions with the baby... not fun. Kevin ---...--- - Craftsman Lego Kits & Custom models: (URL) Lego parts store: (URL) Lego auctions: (URL) Guild of Bricksmiths: (URL) Lego Web (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I come from a more laid-back area; up here in Avacal our political infighting is pretty minimal, and it rarely spills over past the people involved, so I don't see it (much) - but that's the advantage of living in the hinterlands. Less people, (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I think plague counts as one of the "bad parts", so we ignore that. And I'd never switch to all things Renaissance... you'll never catch me waving around one of those silly pokey swords, and wearing fruffly clothing. <grin, duck> James (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Only if you don't target the people making things political. :) (...) But in the Renaissance, armor and weapons got so much more elegant. Of course, this was largely because the cannon of the king and the arquebus of the common foot soldier (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I see people like that at all the time in the SCA; I think the preferred term is "fop" or "dandy." 8^) (...) I have several suits of chain, and SCA people ask if I fight in it. I say, why would I? It offers no impact protection, coupled with (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Thinking of various sorts of weapons and dress reminded me of the group which performed at the SF con we had back in October. They are a group who do staged combats using close to real weapons (I don't think they're sharp). They were quite (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Around here, we call them "swishy-poke". They call us a variety of more stylish insults, but we heavy fighters are simple folk, with simple insults. ;) (...) That's why I fight in a moving blanket (technical term: gambeson). It's a little (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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James Brown wrote in message ... (...) people (...) living in (...) Same here in Lions Gate - there is politics, of course (get more than 2 people together in any kind of organisation and there will be politics!) but it's ignorable if you're not (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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