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Subject: 
Coko Brand (Was: LEGO vann över Biltema...)
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Date: 
Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:41:58 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.se, Tobbe Arnesson wrote:
LEGO Company has taken similar legal action against the Biltema divisions in
Denmark, Sweden and Finland. • Eric Hampusgård wrote:

Great! I've seen the "copies", they look awful. The colours bleak and looks
sick and
the individual fit of the pieces seems to be far out. If I tried to lift one
of the models
I am sure it would totally collapse.


No, they won't. I find Coko to be one of the best clone brands. They snap
together very well. There were just two things that made me disppointed.
1. The minifigs are a disaster; no friction at the hips make them fall forward!
2. Their "military green" coclour is as good as black, far from what is
displayed on the boxes. You have to use very strong light to see that it isn't
black.



Tobbe Arnesson wrote:
In December last year LEGO Company won a lawsuit at The Beijing High People's
Court against the Chinese producer of the Coko products. The court stated that
Coko had to hand over the moulds to the court for destruction. The company also
had to publish an official apology in a national newspaper and pay compensation
to LEGO Company. " • Eric Hampusgård wrote:

One can but wonder if those moulds really were destroyed or if the company
owner
just gave them to his nephew to continue the production. Maybe they already
had
produced so many pieces they felt the need to sell the sets to some less
knowing
company. No wonder Biltema came along. Since Sweden is so far from Denmark
I presume they thought it safe to sell the sets here in Scandinavia. Silly
sods. :)

All give praise to the real Brick! ;)

// Anton


Subject: 
Re: LEGO vann över Biltema i Norge ang. Coko.
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Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:10:53 GMT
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Tobbe Arnesson wrote:
LEGO Company has taken similar legal action against the Biltema divisions • in
Denmark, Sweden and Finland.

Great! I've seen the "copies", they look awful. The colours bleak and looks
sick and
the individual fit of the pieces seems to be far out. If I tried to lift one
of the models
I am sure it would totally collapse.

In December last year LEGO Company won a lawsuit at The Beijing High • People's
Court against the Chinese producer of the Coko products. The court stated • that
Coko had to hand over the moulds to the court for destruction. The company • also
had to publish an official apology in a national newspaper and pay • compensation
to LEGO Company. "

One can but wonder if those moulds really were destroyed or if the company
owner
just gave them to his nephew to continue the production. Maybe they already
had
produced so many pieces they felt the need to sell the sets to some less
knowing
company. No wonder Biltema came along. Since Sweden is so far from Denmark
I presume they thought it safe to sell the sets here in Scandinavia. Silly
sods. :)

All give praise to the real Brick! ;)

// Anton


Subject: 
LEGO vann över Biltema i Norge ang. Coko.
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Date: 
Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:20:32 GMT
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http://www.lego.com/eng/info/press/morepress.asp?RegionalSiteId=11&id=863

"October 1 2003

LEGO Company wins Norwegian lawsuit

LEGO Company has just won a lawsuit against the sales company Biltema at the
Norwegian court Drammen Tingrett. The lawsuit involves Biltema’s sale and
marketing of Coko products – clear imitations of LEGO products. The court’s
decision prohibits Biltema Norway from sale and marketing of these products and
Biltema must pay both compensation as well as the lawsuit costs to LEGO Company.

The court states that both the Coko bricks and the individual Coko building sets
can be mistaken for LEGO bricks and building sets. Furthermore, the court states
that Biltema deliberately has used this possibility of product confusion for
marketing purposes.

Henrik G. Jakobsen from LEGO Company’s Legal Department says: ”We are very
pleased with the court’s decision. It is a very important result for us in our
efforts at opposing imitation products, which can confuse the consumers.”

LEGO Company has taken similar legal action against the Biltema divisions in
Denmark, Sweden and Finland.

In December last year LEGO Company won a lawsuit at The Beijing High People’s
Court against the Chinese producer of the Coko products. The court stated that
Coko had to hand over the moulds to the court for destruction. The company also
had to publish an official apology in a national newspaper and pay compensation
to LEGO Company. "

Mvh,
/Tobbe


Subject: 
Re: Officiell inbjudan till SweLUG #5!
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Date: 
Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:16:00 GMT
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Självklart är våra grannländer välkomna!

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

Hej alla glada!

Så var det äntligen dags för SweLUG #5!

Inbjudan: http://news.lugnet.com/loc/se/traff_031031_inbjudan

Det är med 90% säkerhet klart att vi får låna biosalongen gratis[1] under
allahelgonahelgen. Viss reservation för att lokalen ska få hyresgäster. Skulle
så ske får vi låna en mindre butikslokal i samma hus istället.

Biosalongen är så funtad att man kan gå mellan den och min lägenhet utan att
behöva sätta en fot utomhus. Största nackdelen med lokalen är att golvet är
sluttande/i form av en väldigt utdragen trappa. Men det ska nog funka ändå, för
exempelvis ULV är det en fördel.

Svara på denna tråd om du har frågor om träffen men även om du vill komma eller
vet redan nu att du kommer!

/Tobbe

1. Jag får betala för el och om vi vill ha lokalen uppvärmd under helgen, till
självkostnadspris alltså.


Subject: 
Re: Club of Europe
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Date: 
Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:39:40 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.be, Matthias Jaenichen writes:

"ludo soete" <ludo.soete@village.uunet.be> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:HBE4CE.71F@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.loc.be, Paul Koelewijn writes: • <SNIP>

Hallo Paul,

Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.

I am not quite sure if everyone here is able to read Dutch?!!!

Hi Matthias,

Sorry for this inconvinience. I should have responded only to the Dutch
(lugnet.loc.nl) instead of all those country's.

Regards,
Ludo


Subject: 
Re: Club of Europe
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Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:20:40 GMT
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Hello everybody,

De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.

We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
of LEGO user groups.

<Knip>

Hallo Paul,

Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.

I am not quite sure if everyone here is able to read Dutch?!!!

Hi Matthias,
..and a babelfisch translation from Dutch to English would not help much..   :-)
Herewith Ludo's story translated:

/start/
Hi Paul,
Thanks for this proposition. We, some Vlamingen (=people from the Dutch
speeking part of Belgium *khm) intend also to start a Club, if possible.
Every bit of help from experienced guys from De Bouwsteen is welcome! Our first
meeting is at my place on 12.04.2003. Result of the meeting?... W'll see.
/end/

Klaas H. Meijaard
Hé Ludo! Veel succes! We zijn benieuwd naar jullie bevindingen!
/transl:/ Good luck!         :-)


Subject: 
Re: Club of Europe
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Date: 
Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:06:23 GMT
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"ludo soete" <ludo.soete@village.uunet.be> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:HBE4CE.71F@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.loc.be, Paul Koelewijn writes:
Hello everybody,

De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.

We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
of LEGO user groups.

<Knip>

Hallo Paul,

Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.

I am not quite sure if everyone here is able to read Dutch?!!!


Subject: 
Re: Club of Europe
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Date: 
Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:53:02 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.be, Paul Koelewijn writes:
Hello everybody,

De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.

We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
of LEGO user groups.

<Knip>

Hallo Paul,

Hartelijk dank voor dit voorstel. Wij, dit zijn enkele Vlamingen, zijn ook
van plan om, indien mogelijk, een Club op te richten. Zo, alle hulp van
ervaren personen zoals jullie van De Bouwsteen, is hartelijk welkom. Wij
zouden onze eerste samenkomst bij mij thuis houden op 12 April 2003. Dan
zien we wel wat er eventueel uit de bus komt.

Groetjes uit West Vlaanderen,
Ludo


Subject: 
Club of Europe
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Date: 
Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:33:37 GMT
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Hello everybody,

De Bouwsteen is the Dutch LEGO users group and has currently almost 600
members. Amongst other activities, we organize three club events a year
and we are also actively participating in LEGO world, the biggest LEGO
event of Europe, with in the year 2002 over 37000 visitors in five days.

We would like to get in contact with as much as possible other LEGO user
groups in Europe (or people who are interested in starting up a LEGO
user group) to discuss the possibility of forming an European Federation
of LEGO user groups.

The purpose of this European Federation of LEGO user groups is to
exchange information about the organization of the different LEGO user
groups, the organization of events, as well small events as big events
like LEGO world, and also to synchronize agenda's to minimize the
overlap of events in different countries.

Another advantage of an European Federation of LEGO users group is that
it will be easier to communicate with LEGO and that white gaps are being
identified.

If you would like to discuss about the possibiliteis of an European
Federation of LEGO user groups, please contact me, Paul Koelewijn.

Hasta LuEGO,

Paul Koelewijn
President 'De Bouwsteen'


Subject: 
FreeLUG : a new LEGO association in FRANCE
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Date: 
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Bonjour a tous

(english part after fench).

Je me permet d'utiliser le Cross Post pour vous annonce
la creation d'une association regroupant les passionnes
de LEGO en France.

Les statuts ont ete depose la semaine derniere sous
le nom de FreeLUG (French Enthusiast Lego User Group).

Le but de cette association est evidement de parler
LEGO, de se rencontrer, de faciliter les echanges
entre francophones de tous pays.

Pour nous retrouver :
http://www.freelug.org

Un canal de discussion en francais a egalement ete
creer sur IRC. #freelug sur irc.freelug.org
Il est egalement disponible via interface web :
http://www.freelug.info/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi

Pour plus de renseignement, n'hesitez pas a me
contacter a l'adresse : contact@freelug.org

En esperant vous lire, voir prochainement.
Gael

===

I' using the X-post to announce the creation of a
LEGO association in France.

FreeLUG stands for French Enthusiast Lego User Group.

The goal of this group is of course to talk about LEGO,
to meet each other, to facilitate exchanges between
french speackers from all over the world. Of course
english speackers are also welcome :)

To find us, please visit :
http://www.freelug.org

A french speaking IRC channel has also been created for
the association: #freelug on irc.freelug.org
It can also be accessed by a web interface:
http://www.freelug.info/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi

If you want more information, please contact us at
contact@freelug.org.

Hope to see you soon.

Gael



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