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RE: offtopic: UScentric Americans, why worry?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Parsons [mailto:rparsons@hinet.net.au]
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 10:46 AM
> To: lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com
> Subject: offtopic: UScentric Americans, why worry?
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>
> Guys guys guys!
>
> I'm not sure there's a lot to be gained here.
>
> The Americans rule the planet by weight of economic resources and the
> success of their economic/military model. Get used to it.
> That success has
> brought a bunch of real advantages for the rest of us. And
> that's all most
> Americans think of when they hear criticism, and they wonder
> why the rest of
> us are so <<expletive deleted on request>> ungrateful. And then they
> remember that we're not as successful as they are by their
> measures, so they
> ignore us and press on regardless.
>
> For ours, we're pleased as punch for the advantages, but
> still rail at the
> edges where things are uncomfortable. I'm pleased that there
> is still a
> clash of cultures thing going - at least it means that there are still
> differences.
>
> And on the Lego side, it annoys the <<expletive deleted on
> request>> out of
> me that I get responses like this out of TLC:
>
> Hello,
> Thank you for the e-mail!
> Find your local LEGO Consumer Services at
> http://www.lego.com/info/addresses and contact them.
> If you live in the US, please contact LEGO Consumer
> Service at 1800 822 4534.
> They will be able to help you.
> Best Regards
>
> to a email that plainly came from .au, and raised an issue
> which is not an
> issue in America, because it only reminds me what fly on the
> <<expletive
> deleted on request>> of the America TLC thinks we are down
> here/how much
> respect TLC shows America. You'd have to assume TLC has
> worked out that
> America contains the largest amount of money being spent on
> toys in the
> world, and is going after it with a passion usually
> attributed to Americans.
>
> But these are all givens. These are predictable consequences
> of factors not
> open to our influence.
>
> America - despite the odd exception - is internally focussed
> regardless of
> posturing, in contrast perhaps to the British, who - despite the odd
> exception - actually took responsibility for its empire.
> Britain looked at
> itself as a king with a duty to all his subjects (in contrast
> to a chieftain
> who had won his last battle). Maybe after another hundred
> years or so, if
> America survives as a world power, it will get around to
> taking the same
> longer view and responsibility to which the British aspired
> (and probably
> still aspire).
>
> You have no idea how hard that was to write for a man with a decent
> proportion of Irish blood running around in him.
>
> So, what purpose the thread?
>
> We come off as whiners, which is more or less a useless
> outcome, and kind of
> at odds with our view of ourselves.
>
> It seems to me you get what you can from Lugnet <<customary
> head nod to
> Todd>>, expect it to be UScentric, and be amazed when it is
> not. I have no
> plans to make Port Block or Studs anything other than
> Auscentic (but then I
> wouldn't posture otherwise ;-) Just ignore the posturing and
> don't sweat
> it. Hit the individual points as you go (language, sale
> posts in .general,
> set names etc) but don't generalise them nationally. True as
> it may be, its
> unlikely to be helpful.
>
> Dear oh dear. It all reads like I'm trying to take the high
> ground. Not
> so! I guess it all boils down to the idea that most of this
> is what it is,
> isn't going to change at speed, and not worth stressing over.
> Not for me
> ;-)
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
> Still baldly going...
>
> Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/
Maybe this discussion was never going to gain anything major, but I'd hope
that it might have shown at least 1 person in the US that the world exists
outside the US, and that the people who do live outside the US would at
least like some consideration given from those in the US. After all, lego is
(was?) an international toy, with an international following, and this would
improve with some thought for those who don't live in the US.<esp. in regard
to lego direct and enquiries like you mentioned>
<rant>
[One thing I'd really like to see change is items in marketplace that are
only for 1 country to be listed in a local area, and not where everyone else
can see them. I'm sick of offering to trade for something, only to be told
that 'Sorry, I should have mentioned in the post that I only trade in the
US'. If they're only going to trade in the US [or wherever], they should
either mention this prominently in either the subject, or before they list
the items for sale/auction/trade. Otherwise, they should have to post in
their .loc, or have post privaleges to .market revoked]
</rant>
Benjamin Whytcross
BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
Ph: (03) 9856 5282
Directory Technology Pty Ltd
1/436 Elgar Road,
Box Hill, 3128
Growing older is compulsary..Growing up isn't :-)
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| (...) At least on ebay it's quite clear where each auctioneer will ship to, thankyou to all those 'will ship internationally' sellers. If you go in thru ebay.com.au you can even tick the box 'items available to Australia' before you start. pete.w (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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