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RE: Where did you lot spring from?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Callaway [mailto:pcallaway@bmcl.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:10 AM
To: lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com
Subject: Re: Where did you lot spring from?


In lugnet.loc.au, Richard Franks writes:
In lugnet.loc.au, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.loc.au, Mark Harrison writes:
[...] The whole concept of Lugnet is very US centric. [...]

Eh?

Is that a Canadian-centric reference, eh? ;-)


What gives you the impression that the concept is U.S.-centric?  The
truth is, the whole concept of LUGNET is to be • international and worldwide.

True - LUGNET has been designed to be international, but • regardless of
statistics, it is easy to *percieve* LUGNET as US-centric. • This is probably
just because more Americans are online more often, and not • because Americans
are evil.

I think this is a natural effect, and something that will • dissipate in time as
more of the world enjoys cheaper net-access. To me, the • things that contribute
to the US centric perception would be the frequent US only • references (eg US
shopping outlets, prices in USD, US-only services, US • Culture) in common
newsgroups such as lugnet.general etc. These aren't listed • because I believe
they should be curtailed, but it might aid understanding of where the
perception comes from.

But saying LUGNET is US-centric by design is very different • from saying it is
US-centric because more Americans hang out here. As IMHO the • latter is a
problem that will solve itself, assuming other localities • aren't alienated
before then :)

As a whinging pom, I don't feel particularly 'alienated' by • US references
though, how about you Aussies? :)

Not so much alienated as peeved to the hilt with all the
service options given
to the US that are not offered worldwide. I'm a moderate
person, but there
have been times when I've made my computer blush due to the
colourful language
I've emitted after reading a few posts, mostly about S@H,
LEGO Outlet stores
and most recently LEGO Direct. Even the Dacta shipping policy
struck a raw
nerve on one occasion. But the recent LEGO Direct
developments are a real kick
in the guts for Australia (and NZ, and everyone else who
doesn't live in the
US). Sorry if I upset the new Lugnet/TLC relationship, but
the last post from
Brad Justus really gave me the irrits.

I'll second that [and third it on behalf of my brother].

I think Todd and Suz have done a marvelous job of creating a
neutral zone for
all AFOL's to meet in cyberspace, where international
boundaries can be
broken. Having the .loc groups is a stoke of genius IMO, as
it still allows
people from different regions to "talk shop" without worrying
about cultural
or language barriers, and gives the place a more personal feel.

I like this feature too, although I wish that others would post country
specific messages in their .loc, instead of dumping them in .general [Really
irritates me, as I get posts e-mailed to me [no internet/newsgroup access at
work], and I'm sick of having to delete most from the .general, as they are
US related, with little to no intrest to those outside the US...at least to
my way of thinking, anyway.]

Something I'd like to see would be a .loc.xx.marketplace, where people could
post sales that are only open to that country [.loc.US.marketplace would be
a good start.], as it would make it easier to find sales that are
international. I'm sick of people offering trades/sales, but when they hear
you are not in the US, suddenly deciding that it is only for the US.

[I realize this probably won't happen, but I can hope.]

Better get off my soap box before I break something.

me too.

Pete Callaway



Benjamin Whytcross
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