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Re: what makes a legend?
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Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:44:10 GMT
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This has been pointed out before. The more things change, the more they stay
the same...
http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=2445
-Duane
In lugnet.lego.direct, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jeff Findley writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Kevin Salm writes:
> > > Instead, I want to see NEW selections that are based upon
> > > the spirit of old sets.
> > >
> > > For example: lets take set 6385 Fire House 1 from 1985 -->
> > > http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6385
> > > Using all of the unique and special pieces that came with this set, the
> > > Lego set designers can create a new product. Use a different baseplate,
> > > modify the vehicles, and give the building a facelift to produce a new
> > > and different Lego set. It could even be named Fire House 2.
> > >
> > > Will it be a re-issue of the original -- NO.
> > > Will it capture the spirit of the original -- Yes, I hope.
> > > Will it have all of the key pieces of the original -- Yes.
> > > Will it be a Legend -- No, it will be a brand new selection.
> > >
> > > Why do this?? Why not!!
> > > Re-issuing Lego sets and calling them Legends or Classics seems to
> > > be taking the easy way out. I see no reason why today's Lego set
> > > designers cannot create stimulating and appealing Lego sets based
> > > upon the quality Lego sets of the past. But do not simply copy
> > > them--make them even better!!!
> >
> > This is a bad idea. If you don't stay close enough to the original, AFOL's
> > will not like the set.
>
> Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn't mind at all, and would welcome changes,
> especially in the unique colors for elements area.
>
> If you don't Juniorize some of these sets enough, it
> > won't be cheap enough to sell to kids (with parents who aren't AFOL's) at
> > your local TRU.
>
> Remember, we are talking about LEGO *Direct*. They do not sell retail by
> charter. And I doubt juniorization has as much to do with cutting costs
> (certainly in the short run it is *more* expensive-- new molds for all of the
> POOPs) as it does about making sets *quicker* to build for little minds with
> shorter attention spans...
>
> Instead, these kids/parents will buy more Megablocks
> > because they're buying more on price than quality.
> >
> > In the end, if you compromise too much, you'll make everyone unhappy.
>
> Well, it's like I asked elsewhere-- what do AFOLs want-- more sets *like*
> produced in the past, or the *actual* sets produced in the past? It seems to me
> that the only advantage to producing a "legend" is that it eliminates a lot of
> design time and cost for LD. All they have to do is research the parts, print
> up some stickers, and away they go.
>
>
> Kids
> > today want flashy characters and sets, not "classic" designs with minifigs
> > that have plain smiley faces. Ledgends are purchased primarily by AFOL's
>
> Uh, we just don't know that, and I doubt if it is even true. But that is not to
> say that we couldn't *be* the target audience. Although the AFOL market is
> relatively small and normally not profitable to pursue for a company such as
> TLC, *LD* is able to market to us *because they are able to keep production
> costs to a bare minimum* by selling directly to the customer and not incurring
> high costs such as creating new molds.
>
> > and changing the sets too much will upset them to the point that they won't
> > buy the set.
>
> Keeping them exactly the same will discourage those who already have the set
> from buying it also... Which group is larger, collectors who want them the
> same, or AFOLs who already have the sets? Both, I suspect, are small compared
> to the entire AFOL population.
>
> -John
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| (...) Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn't mind at all, and would welcome changes, especially in the unique colors for elements area. If you don't Juniorize some of these sets enough, it (...) Remember, we are talking about LEGO *Direct*. They do (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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