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Re: 10152 Update: What has TLC to do to bring YOU up against them?
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Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:15:30 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Ronald Borchert wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Steven D. Weiser wrote:

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Hi,

in this discussion on lugnet.com almost everybody who wrote about collectors
wrote in a very negative way. It seems as if in the english speaking world a
collector is generally a moneyhunter, speculator, and really a bad guy.

Not what I intended to bring across. I am saying that any type of investment,
wether it be the stock market, or the toy market, is risky business. You take
your chances on making or losing money. I have purchased shares in companys that
were later bought out and the stock became worthless. It was'nt KMart.

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They just wait for the day they could say to
other people "Hey man, you need set 1234? I have one but it costs twice the
release price, sorry."?

Is that not what investing is? The people who are keeping these for resale at a
later date are hoping just that. And they may well find someone to buy them at
an inflated price.

I have a science fiction memorabilia collection that I spent tens of thousnads
of dollars on. It was worth $10,000 a decade ago. The value has likely increased
since I had it appraised, but I did not buy any of it with the intention of
reselling it. I enjoy displaying it, and I enjoy allowing other people to see
it. But, if I tried to sell it, only a few choice items would bring a price I
would be happy with.


Why do you all think so?

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For sure: No collector would earn the same money he spend for his collection
when he's going to sell it. Maybe there some highlights whichs prices increased
in the last years, but LEGO ist not that type of hobby to make money by
collecting it.

And that is the point I was trying make. TLC is losing money. They will do what
is necessary to make a profit. Even re-releasing a re-release that was supposed
to be a "limited edition". They and Mearsk own all copyrights and trademarks,
and therefore can do what they like. The people who are complaining took a
chance and lost. Or did they? Only time and the future demand of this set will
tell that story.


When I find an old MISB 70's set what I like to own why should I open it?
I have enough standard bricks to build MOCs. So I just leave it in the box and
store it away ore put it on the shelf in the box.

Why store it where you can't see it? Protect it in a bag and display it. Let
others see it. Out of the sunlight of course.

But a Maerk-Set? With maerskblue bricks? Rare because limited? Only 10,000 on
sale? Buy it immediately before they are gone. Or should I wait until I can buy
it from one of the party you are fed up?

Personally, I am not thrilled with the color, which is why I never bought any.


So please try to understand collectors who are very annoyed about this Maersk
Theme. I think, I wouldn't have bought this set if I had known that it is normal
blay set, ok some rare parts in it, which could be bought anytime later and is
produced in the big ammounts like every other set.

I doubt very much that this will be produced in huge quantities. But, I am not
sure. Does anyone know what the standard production run for a set is.


The best comparison is what Ben said about the limited Santa Fé:
What would you have thought about Lego as a company when they had done another
run of auctions with number 1-10?

Different case. The Santa Fe was released as a "limited edition". The Mearsk set
was a release limited by the amount of that color on hand at that time.
You brought up some good points. But in the end. BUYER BEWARE!

Steven Weiser


Regards Ronald



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