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Re: 10152 Update: What has TLC to do to bring YOU up against them?
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lugnet.lego
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Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:15:30 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Ronald Borchert wrote:
> In lugnet.lego, Steven D. Weiser wrote:
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> snipped some text to reduce it to something I'am confused about
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> Hi,
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> in this discussion on lugnet.com almost everybody who wrote about collectors
> wrote in a very negative way. It seems as if in the english speaking world a
> collector is generally a moneyhunter, speculator, and really a bad guy.
Not what I intended to bring across. I am saying that any type of investment,
wether it be the stock market, or the toy market, is risky business. You take
your chances on making or losing money. I have purchased shares in companys that
were later bought out and the stock became worthless. It was'nt KMart.
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> > They just wait for the day they could say to
> other people "Hey man, you need set 1234? I have one but it costs twice the
> release price, sorry."?
Is that not what investing is? The people who are keeping these for resale at a
later date are hoping just that. And they may well find someone to buy them at
an inflated price.
I have a science fiction memorabilia collection that I spent tens of thousnads
of dollars on. It was worth $10,000 a decade ago. The value has likely increased
since I had it appraised, but I did not buy any of it with the intention of
reselling it. I enjoy displaying it, and I enjoy allowing other people to see
it. But, if I tried to sell it, only a few choice items would bring a price I
would be happy with.
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> Why do you all think so?
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> For sure: No collector would earn the same money he spend for his collection
> when he's going to sell it. Maybe there some highlights whichs prices increased
> in the last years, but LEGO ist not that type of hobby to make money by
> collecting it.
And that is the point I was trying make. TLC is losing money. They will do what
is necessary to make a profit. Even re-releasing a re-release that was supposed
to be a "limited edition". They and Mearsk own all copyrights and trademarks,
and therefore can do what they like. The people who are complaining took a
chance and lost. Or did they? Only time and the future demand of this set will
tell that story.
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> When I find an old MISB 70's set what I like to own why should I open it?
> I have enough standard bricks to build MOCs. So I just leave it in the box and
> store it away ore put it on the shelf in the box.
Why store it where you can't see it? Protect it in a bag and display it. Let
others see it. Out of the sunlight of course.
> But a Maerk-Set? With maerskblue bricks? Rare because limited? Only 10,000 on
> sale? Buy it immediately before they are gone. Or should I wait until I can buy
> it from one of the party you are fed up?
Personally, I am not thrilled with the color, which is why I never bought any.
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> So please try to understand collectors who are very annoyed about this Maersk
> Theme. I think, I wouldn't have bought this set if I had known that it is normal
> blay set, ok some rare parts in it, which could be bought anytime later and is
> produced in the big ammounts like every other set.
I doubt very much that this will be produced in huge quantities. But, I am not
sure. Does anyone know what the standard production run for a set is.
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> The best comparison is what Ben said about the limited Santa Fé:
> What would you have thought about Lego as a company when they had done another
> run of auctions with number 1-10?
Different case. The Santa Fe was released as a "limited edition". The Mearsk set
was a release limited by the amount of that color on hand at that time.
You brought up some good points. But in the end. BUYER BEWARE!
Steven Weiser
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> Regards Ronald
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