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Re: 10152 Update
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Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:08:15 GMT
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Hi all,
1)
I would like to mention a fact to this issue, which might help to understand the
annoyance of nearly all German AFOLs (here on LUGNET and on 1000steine.de (see:
http://f24.parsimony.net/forum61776/messages/92392.htm).
In Germany, the set was actually announced as limited. The official
announcement of LEGO Direct (Jan Beyer) is here:
http://f24.parsimony.net/forum61776/messages/82404.htm
There’s the sentence: “Die Auflage dieses Sets ist ebenfalls begrenzt, es gibt
insgesamt 14.000 Stck.” Translation: “The edition of this set is likewise
limited, there is a total of 14,000 copies”
As you can see, there’s is a significant difference between the translated
sentence and how Jake announced the set (“This is a small run too - only 14,000
total”)
2)
The set was sold at SaH Germany saying “Dieses ist deine letzte Chance Maersk
blaue Steine zu kaufen”. Translation: “This is your last chance to buy Maersk
blue bricks”
Well, it seems that it was not the last chance. It doesn’t matter whether
there’s a momentous reason for bringing Maersk blue back or not and I don’t want
to discuss this reason. But interesting to know might be the fact, that we have
several laws in Germany that shall protect the consumers. One of these is called
“gesetzliche Gewährleistung” (loose translation: guarantee by law). It says
(among other things), that one can return a product within two(!) years, as soon
as the characteristics of a product became different to what they were at the
time of buying (except wear and tear of course). So everybody could return their
10152s, even if they were opened. Again: I don’t want to discuss whether that’s
good or bad, it’s just as it is.
3)
Most people with no or less symphaties for collectors call them speculators and
money-hunters. That’s just not fair and testifies to jealousy. One can collect
things without having the $-signs in mind and I know many serious collectors who
wouldn’t ever call their collections an “investment”.
Plus: Since the early eighties, TLC forces the idea of a collectible. Once a
slogan for the Castle line was: “LEGO Burg. Zum Bauen, Spielen und Sammeln!”
Translation: “LEGO Castle. Build, Play and Collect!”
Leg Godt!
René
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Message has 3 Replies:
 | | Interesting point of view, Rene!
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| Well, the combination of non-adherence to advertised values of the product and the legal endowment to return an item for refund if it does not match previously promised core properties could really lead to a case here (IMHO, IANAL). At the end of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
| | | Re: 10152 Update
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| (...) Guten Tag, Rene! Hope fatherhood is treating you well:^D Thanks for bringing this into the discussion. It seems this information makes the case a little stronger against TLC. It's simply reckless and dishonest to advertise in this manner, IMO. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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| | 10152 Update
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| All, As the saying goes... I have some good news and some bad news about the 10152 Maersk ship. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to post an update. We've been working on a number of things surrounding this set. As you certainly recall, the situation (...) (20 years ago, 18-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.lego.announce, FTX) !!
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