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Re: 10152 Update
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lugnet.lego
Date: 
Mon, 20 Dec 2004 02:48:30 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.lego, Kelly McKiernan wrote:

  
After reading the various whining about “broken promises” in this thread, remember this: circumstances changed as they often do in life. Maersk wanted more of that set. They were willing to pony up to get it. Side effect is, there’s enough left over for more sales to the public. LEGO looks at the fact that this was a very good seller...

But you ignore the fact that part of the reason that that set may have been such a good seller in the first place was that people may have purchased them as collectibles. I know I purchased a few extra with that thought in mind.

If you purchase something at full retail, as a collectable, then someone’s P&L statement is going to look pretty good. If enough people do that, then there has been created a ‘demand’ that had more to do with the profit motive than the desire to own something unique. I think that is what happened here.

  
   What part of that reasoning makes you think LEGO would need to think twice about re-releasing it to the public? It’s an absolute no-brainer, as far as I’m concerned. The company made business choices based not only on their own bottom line, but they also tried to offer something they thought a small percentage of their consumer base would appreciate. I find that encouraging.

I don’t think anyone is complaining that there will be more of these sets in order to purchase. It was the fact that consumers were led to believe that the color maersk blue would never again be produced and thus the sets containing that color would have value beyond their face value. I think the whole matter would be solved in a nano second if TLC simply changed the number or somehow made the new run tangibly different from the original. This would require minimum effort and make everyone happy (except those who were really hoping for the dark blue version, which may or may not appear).

Except that Maersk wants more 10152’s. So TLC is going to make another run of 10152, and split the production between Maersk and S@H. I would be most pleased if there were enough pellets to do the production run and reissue something else from the collection of past Maersk sets (e.g 1552 or 1831). I would suspect that part of the higher pellet cost is a one-shot setup fee. If so, then it might make more sense to order extra.

  
   Many people are looking at it from the standpoint of “LEGO is producing collectibles, so they need to honor the implied promise of limited availability.” Does LEGO look at their products that way? I don’t know, but I doubt it.

If they had never said that Maersk blue would be gone forever after the last run, I don’t think people would have any expectation of limited availability. Therein lies the rub.

My take is that TLC assumed that the existing stock of pellets would be sufficient to meet everyones needs. The only thing that might change that (unlikely back then) was for Maersk to ask for more. Guess what happened ? So they could just make some for Maersk and ignore us (i.e. S@H) or do it this way. This makes more sense to me (but is sure to honk off the collectors/proffiteers).

Ray



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  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) I think that I didn't make myself clear. All I am asking for is that the new run of 10152s be numbered "10153" or something. This simple change preserves the collectiblity of the 10052s. I wasn't suggesting any more radical change than that. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)

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  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) But you ignore the fact that part of the reason that that set may have been such a good seller in the first place was that people may have purchased them as collectibles. I know I purchased a few extra with that thought in mind. (...) I don't (...) (20 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)  

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