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Subject: 
 Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
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 Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:50:37 GMT
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Hi Jake,

I NEVER get involved with controversial issues on LUGNET, but I couldn't stay
quiet any longer (or I might explode into a million minifig parts).

First off, the color change thing.  OK, it's a done deal.
People GET OVER IT!!!!   If you don't like Lego anymore, then fine.  Just leave it to your nephews or nieces and buy Megablocks, and quit bugging the rest of us!

And don't make it sound like we (the rest of the AFOL community) are behind you!
They made a color change without our input.  They admitted that in the future
they would consult with us.  That sounds fine by me.  I'm over it.  I still
trust them. You can always buy more of the old stuff on Bricklink, and besides
Lego castles will look much better with 2 shades of gray mixed together, it will
look real and not perfect.

And for the Factory, they started with Town.  So what!  It seems like everytime
TLG starts some initiative (for the AFOL community) there are always people who
whine about it.  Oh what about castle or what about space or what about this or
that.  Heck they cannot do everything at once for everyone.  Besides Town has
been ignored for quite a number of years.

4 years ago on Lugnet I started a letter writing campaign to KKK about how TLG
is ignoring us.  That letter got 126 AFOL names on it.  It never did make it to
KKK, because the next thing we know, Lego Direct was announced.  So they
certainly did heard us.

Today we can buy Lego elements in colors we never even dreamed of 4 years ago.
Today I can buy dozens of different parts in Maersk Blue in Bricklink (or dozens
of other colors).  But some people just are caught up in always looking at the
negative.

TLG is not perfect, neither is Jake.  But they are trying (and in Jake's case,
trying very hard).  That is more than TLG did for AFOLs in the previous 40
years.

For someone who has been involved with Lego for 44 years, I have to tell the
rest of you this:  For a long time no one has been more critical of TLG than I
have, and for good reason (I actually purchased 90 copies of one $5 set in 1987
only to get the 4 yellow windows out of each set).

But since 2001 I have now come to this realization.... in the 55 years that Lego
has been on this planet, there is no better time to be an AFOL than right now,
and it is getting better!

I've said enough!

(Now where is that blood pressure medicine...)

Gary Istok

A Lego Addict since 1960.

P.S. Jake, I know that some days you ask yourself if all this is worth it, well
you have my (and a lot of other AFOLs) heartfelt thanks for what you are trying
to doing for us.  God bless you.



Message has 13 Replies:
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
(...) thank you, I've been thinking the same thing! (...) that is true, and now you can achieve an even better look with 4+ shades of grey, try throwing in a couple of black and white pieces as well, awsome! not only that, but you can still get the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
(...) Amen! (...) I second, third, fourth and fifth that! Your job must be hell at times, no thanks to us whiney fans of LEGO. You have my heartfelt thanks. And that is all I have to say. (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
  Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong was Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
(...) In my opionion, Lego direct is inferior to the old service leaflets you used to be able to get. Under the old system you used to be able to buy, in small qauntites, virtually any Technic part you wanted. Now you have to buy a whole 'service (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
(...) Consider it a therapy for those among us who still retain a sense of color. Fact is, the color change didn't help LEGO one bit. They just managed to alienate many of their adult customers. And their other typical customers apparently don't buy (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)  
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
Hello there First off, AMEN! And offcourse, thank you for taking this up. I think that the problems are the people whining about lego are the general direction they've taken the last couple of years, and see where it goes. Off course TLC will have (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
Thank you for addressing this. I was similarly irritated while reading some of the responses to the universal color list. And was motivated to write a rude response to some of the negative comments, but I knew that would not solve anything. I feel (...) (20 years ago, 20-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
Thanks for speaking up for the silent majority. (20 years ago, 21-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
(...) I think you don't get it. It's about the attitude of LEGO towards its clients, me, you, every AFOL and children. The Color change is more than just a color issue, but even if it was, it's still too big to get over it easily. (...) Then go buy (...) (20 years ago, 21-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
I am a lurker (and have been for some six years), sadly. Partly due to time to respond, partlt due to wanting to build, not gripe. I appreciate your words - they were made before I could get off my rear and post my own. I have only been a follower (...) (20 years ago, 21-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
In lugnet.lego, Gerhard R. Istok wrote: Gary, I agree with a lot of your post, but there are a few things that I wanted to comment on: (...) Well, yes, as long as the two shades are old gray and old dark gray. Basically, while I agree that people (...) (20 years ago, 22-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)  
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
(...) At the risk of adding being a "me-too", let me add my voice of appreciation. Now is definitely the best time to be an AFOL. And I can't wait to see what 2005 brings. The grey cloud on the horizon - in my part of the world, retailers are (...) (20 years ago, 22-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)  
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
(...) Telling other people to shut up when they voice valid concerns is not a very democratic attitude. (...) I wish you (and therefor all of us) good luck that your trust will not be broken by the next "great" idea from upper management. BTW, I've (...) (20 years ago, 22-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: Appreciating what TLG and Lego Direct have done for AFOL's
 
Hello! Yes, I appreciate what LEGO has done for me (me, being an AFOL, as I am only entitled to speak for myself) and I really like many of LEGO Direct's products. I simply love the concept "LEGO system" and that's what I'm grateful for as well as (...) (20 years ago, 23-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX) !! 

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