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Re: Obnoxious over-reaction vs. sugar coating
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Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:21:18 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.general, Mike Rayhawk writes:
It gets worse: Lego, computer message boards, gaming.  The last is damning!

lol

I was hoping someone would pick up on that!  It's like the triple crown of
geekdom.


So, I guess I am one of the people that you view as someone jumping on
legitimate criticism since I effectively disagreed with Tom.

Well no, you're one of the people I view as ignoring the criticism and going
straight to jumping on Tom.  Nothing wrong with that, since you seem to have
a legitimate beef with him informed by years of experience.  Probably Tim
was coming from the same point of view, I just didn't know it at the time; I
hadn't realized Tom was such a notorious character and had built up such a
stock of ill will.

I'm not really trying to support Tom here, like I said, I recognize that his
posts were completely inappropriate, as much as I enjoyed them.  Of course I
was enjoying them when there were only two posts, as the thread got longer
and the acrimony failed to decrease it got a lot harder to believe that it
was just a matter or momentary emotional excess, as I'd originally assumed.

But still, I think a lot of that criticism was legitimate if you can ignore
the fact that it was couched in insults and that it came from Tom.  It
really is just painful to read whiny posts, and there's no reason we
shouldn't feel free to say so.


In the sense that Tom was right is not the point, it is how he expresses
himself.  What did Tom accomplish by more controversy?  He could have
imparted the same message without being so singularly abrasive.

All right, I concede the point.


Yes, I appreciate that the whininess is annoying, but are you saying
that in this particular case it was best handled by Tom's method, or
is this more an expression of disgust at the overall level of whining
(which seems inappropriate to me to take out on one person for one
occassion)?

I don't think it was best handled by Tom's method, and I don't think it's
appropriate, but I also think it's a pain to be walking around on eggshells
all the time worrying about whether what we're saying is best or
appropriate.  I felt that Tom's original post was understandable as a purely
emotional reaction, and in that light it made sense that the anger was out
of proportion to a single error by an individual recipient.  Which is not
the most productive kind of post by most objective standards, but not
something deserving of such instantaneous public censure.

I'm speaking rhetorically now, since I no longer really think that it was
that kind of post at all.  Now that the thread's dragged out a bit, in
hindsight I can see that it's been less about the natural expression of a
genuine emotion than about a guy who likes to see how much trouble he can
stir up.

- Mike.



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Obnoxious over-reaction vs. sugar coating
 
(...) I just got a huge 5' by 9' green indoor/outdoor carpet for a Fantasy Rules! miniatures battle with Lego. Geek, geek, geek. Still, I could ratchet it up one more notch by using a game actually designed for Lego (which I keep meaning to do). (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Obnoxious over-reaction vs. sugar coating
 
(...) Dare I point out that some people <gasp> post MOCs of Dr. Who and Star Wars models.... eeyaaah! I feel the sudden need to run out, grab a cheap light beer, and watch a football game while grunting at other "non-geeky" men. Maybe that will cure (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Obnoxious over-reaction vs. sugar coating
 
(...) Oh, come now. Read all my posts on Lugnet. Not just the ones in .debate or just this thread, ALL of them. Then come back and tell me I like to see how much trouble I can stir up. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.general)

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  Re: Obnoxious over-reaction vs. sugar coating
 
(...) It gets worse: Lego, computer message boards, gaming. The last is damning! No emoticons to soften that. Happy? (which comes off as snippy for those who don't realize I'm a long-time gamer, which illustrates the problems with the written word) (...) (21 years ago, 18-Apr-03, to lugnet.general)

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