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Re: Legends: good or bad?
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lugnet.general
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Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:00:26 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> In lugnet.general, David Eaton writes:
> > If you're against Legends because they're not valueable to you, so
> > what? Why are they a bad thing if *other* people want them? Why is it bad
> > for Lego to make a product that sells well?
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> I fear there is no room for two lines of Legends - the ones I would like to
> see and the ones that exist (and will be made in future). These Sets are made
> basically for AFOLs and therefor I am more upset here as about Galidor - This
> should be my part of market in the TLC program, but it does not serve me.
> Any further Legend lowers the chance to see a "perfect" new set. Ok, we have
> got the santa fe despite of the metroliner II. So mayby I am wrong in this
> point.
Well, the problem is that a lot of AFOLs have nostalgic value for sets. Old
sets even pay off in nostalgia for kids-- there's something appealing about
a "golden age" that's included in the word 'Legend'. Lego's cashing in on
that. They wouldn't with new sets. Which pays off more? I couldn't tell
you-- I don't have the numbers.
My personal hope is that the Legends will do really well. And in so doing,
TLC will provide brand new non-juniorized product lines, reminiciant of
older themes.
> > > If it is so much less worth to you, you would not have to pay that. Just
> > > obmit to have one and buy other sets with better price piece relatio
> > > instead. What is the problem?
> >
> > That's a problem because there AREN'T new sets with the same pieces or piece
> > ratios.
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> I think there are a lot of them: most of the sculptures have perfect piece
> assortments. Model team has been perfect during the last decade. Later there
> have been Adventurers and Star Wars as really good sets.
Well, that's true if you're into building Star Wars sets and sculptures--
but (for example) castle builders just don't have the same
good-castle-building-part ratio in new sets as can be found in things like
the Guarded Inn or BFF. Sure, you can get castle figs from SW sets and KK
sets-- and you can get bulk castle bricks from SW, and sculptures-- and you
can get little tidbits from Harry Potter & Belville-- but it's not as
"value-for-your-money" as an old-style castle set. And admittedly, it's
getting better with things like the bulk selection, etc. But it's not there yet.
> > I guess I would rather see a quality set LIKE the Guarded Inn or the
> > Metroliner in stores than to see a re-release.
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> 100% agreement!
At least that's something-- I must admit initially I had a rather harsher
view of your point from threads going around previously on Lugnet, wherein I
seem to recall set rarity being an issue (which I am firmly against).
> > But we aren't going to get them.
> > Lego Direct is doing the Legends line. And they don't have the ability
> > to release & design new sets.
>
> What about the sculptures? Rebel Blockade Runner? Sopwith Camel etc..
Are these Lego Direct's products? I was under the impression that they
weren't-- that LD handled Legends, S@H, Lego.com, and Bulk? At any rate,
even then LD can produce more if it doesn't have to go through months of
design work to produce a set. Much cheaper and less time consuming for LD.
And if that helps accelerate us to the point when we can get new, quality,
non-juniorized sets, then great! I'm hoping, anyway...
DaveE
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| (...) [snip] (...) I am really annoyed about town junior, Galidor, Jack Ston(ed), Buyonickel and lots of other themes (but those are aming at none-Afols as custumers). (...) I fear there is no room for two lines of Legends - the ones I would like to (...) (23 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.general)
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