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Re: Robert Jordan WOT (was Re: Harry Potter Lego Line)
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Date: 
Sun, 16 Jul 2000 06:35:32 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Jeff Johnston writes:


Erik Olson wrote:

In lugnet.general, Mike Petrucelli writes:

[coughing] rip-off [end coughing]
Can you say Two Towers the second book of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.  Any
other medieval fantasy is pretty much a rip-off of Tolkien's work.  While it
may not be the best reading it did define the whole concept of wizards, eleves,
orcs, ect.

While Tolkien has no equal, I take exception to your statements. There are many
"medieval fantasies" that are not derivatives of Tolkien, but the demand for
them wouldn't exist if not for Tolkien. Undoubtedly there are some less original
imitations. But, Tolkien re-packaged these things for our time, he didn't invent
them.

Absolutely right.  On the other hand, the reason why Tolkien's stuff is so much
better than the scads of imitators is because it's a 'first-generation copy' rather

than second or third.  Tolkien did such extensive research into the reality of life

Right on target!


George R.R. Martin seems to be a "writer's writer" because I hear his name from
people on author panels and invariably nobody in the room recognizes it! Since
you said it again I must now look him up!


You know what is funny about the stuff that seems like the author just read the
D&D manuals? Those manuals read like the designers just read Leiber's Lankhmar
books!

I went off to re-read the introduction to Fritz Leiber's Ill-Met in Lankhmar
reprint (1st of a set, unfortunately it seems to have been remaindered recently
and is not in stores at all.)  According to Michael Moorcock, they were trying
to get fantasy published before Tolkien was known on this side of the Atlantic.

Lieber's brand of fantasy was written out of a thorough knowledge of classical
literature and the theatre.



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  Re: Robert Jordan WOT (was Re: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Absolutely right. On the other hand, the reason why Tolkien's stuff is so much better than the scads of imitators is because it's a 'first-generation copy' rather than second or third. Tolkien did such extensive research into the reality of (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.castle)

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