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Re: Fun OLD Bricks/History questions
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Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:49:32 GMT
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Gary again makes me bow in utter disbelief of the knowledge you have
about lego!!!!
Keep up the great research Gary, you are an asset to the groups here!
Tamy
Gary Istok wrote:
<snipped Alan's message>
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> The named beams without LEGO on the studs are circa 1955-57. I have a few 1x6
> white beams (some with names, some without) that don't have the LEGO logo. The
> (hollow bottom) named beams with the logo were from 1957- mid 60's. The named
> beams with the logo and with posts on the bottom were from the mid 60's to about
> the mid 70's. And all other sizes (besides 1x6 and 1x8) of signs are from the
> late 60's to the present.
>
> Last December I had a long EMAIL discussion with two very knowledgeable European
> LEGO collectors, one was Phil Traviss of the UK and the other Kurt Richter of
> Germany. We really went off on a long tangent with the old named beams. It
> really astonished me as to how many different sets LEGO made (in different
> countries) that had named beams (and here we're talking only the really old 1x6
> and 1x8 white beams). Here is a list (still incomplete) of the different sets
> the 3 of us could come up with that had these named beams. Phil and Kurt
> provided most of this input:
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> Set# Date Description
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> 210 1957-196? Little Store (210W: WRSTCHEN, 210T: TABAK, 210B: BCKER) (not
> USA)
> 1210 1955-? same as 210, early Danish version (Kobmand, Bager, Slagter)
> 226 1957-1965 7 Named Beams (this is the regular named beam parts pack in
> Europe/USA)
> 226 1957 -? first German/Netherlands versions contained 8 beams, later 7
>
> 236 1957-1965 Garage with automatic door GARAGE
> 261 1957-1964 Saloon car in Special Case VW DEALER (VW Verkauf) (not USA)
> 306 1957-1964 Double garage and 2 cars VW GARAGE (VW Garage or VW
> Verkauf) (not USA)
> 307 1957-1964 Car showroom and 2 cars DEALER (VW Verkauf) (not USA)
> 308 1957-1964 Fire Station and Fire Engine FIRE STATION (Feuerwehr) (not USA)
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> 1308 1955-? same as 308, early Danish version (FALCK)
> 309 1957-1962 Church with tree AD 1762 (Anno 1762) (not USA)
> 1309 1955-? same as 309, early Danish version (1762)
> 310 1957-1965 Petrol Station with pumps and car ESSO SERVICE (ESSO
> Wagenpflege) (Not USA)
> 348 ca. 1972 Garage kit with 2 Doors GARAGE
> 700 1957 Wooden Box early Town Plan type set - 7 named beams (not
> USA/UK)
> 700/0 1960-1964 Basic Set TAXI GARAGE CAFE DEALER (not USA)
> 700/K 1961-1966 Basic set in Wooden Box as 226 (UK only?) (not USA)
> 725 1961-1965 Town Plan Samsonite (ESSO SERVICE + HOTEL) (USA only)
> 810 1962-1969 Town Plan Set ESSO SERVICE + HOTEL (not USA)
> 426 1966-1972 7 Named Beams see pic (only UK)
> 491 ca. 65 SHELL Petrol pumps and 6 named beams (not UK)
> 990 ca. 75 V1/V2/V3 Set including 4 named white beams (not UK)
>
> As you can tell from this list, LEGO made an astonishing number of different
> sets with the old (1x6 and 1x8) named beams. And it is not even a complete
> list! There are probably over 100 different name, font and color varieties of
> these old named beams. It makes for a great collecting variation.
>
> With me being on an old Movie Theatre building spree, I have been buying up any
> old THEATER or THEATRE signs I can find. (A shameless plug!) So far I have
> found "THEATER" and "THEATRE" in black block letters, "THEATER" in black thin
> letters, "THEATER" in red block letters, "Theater" in red script, "Theater" in
> black script, and "Grand Theater" in red script. And this is only the Theater
> signage!
>
> Oh, and before I forget, that 1x4 LEGOLAND beam you have Alan was from circa
> 1968-77. TLC made a lot of these 1x4 LEGOLAND beams in all sorts of colors (I
> have red and yellow in my collection). These are found mostly in 1970's sets.
>
> And the letters and numbers are from parts packs. They are probably #234
> (letters) and #237 (numbers), which were produced from 1957-64. Or they could
> be #487 (letters) and #488 (numbers) from circa 1965-67. In circa 1968 they
> were switched to #987 (letters) and #988 (numbers).
>
> And on your 1x2 plates question, I think that the oldest 1x2 plates are the 1x2
> rectangular pip plates. And the reason for that is because I have Cellulose
> Acetate 1x2 plates (from the Architectural Parts packs #521 from 1963-65) that
> have the rectangular pips. These CA plates were the very first ones produced in
> 1963. It appears that sometime in 1963 or perhaps 1964, TLC switched to ABS
> plates. I'll have to do some more investigation to determine the age of the
> "pip-less" plates.
>
> Gary Istok
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Keep on Bricken'
-Tamy
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Lego isn't a toy, it's a way of life!
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| (...) And I won't disappoint you, Alan! The named beams without LEGO on the studs are circa 1955-57. I have a few 1x6 white beams (some with names, some without) that don't have the LEGO logo. The (hollow bottom) named beams with the logo were from (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.general)
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