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Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited
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Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:43:21 GMT
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Jeff Stembel <aulddragon@wamalug.org> wrote in message
news:Fo8C7x.71s@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.general, Mark Koesel writes:

In my estimation, the first set to include the type 3 cylinders would be
set 374 Fire Station from 1978.  I don't have this set, but it clearly
comes with trans-blue cylinders, and I'm pretty certain that those (and • the
other colored transparent cylinders) were only released as type 3. TLC
probably phased cylinders in existing colors to type 3 over a period of a
couple years.

Whereas my 590 has solid studs.  I got this set from a yard sale in the • mid
'80s.  The only cylinders in the box were two yellow ones, all thee rest • were
missing.

Aha, of course -- set 590 Engine Co. No. 9.  I actually have (or had --
can't
remember if I sold that one or not) that set too.  Yes, this set is
identical
to set 374, but is in a different color scheme.  I can say with certainty
that my copy of this set contained Type 3 trans blue cylinders.  I can't
recall what color the yellow ones were, but I wouldn't be surprised at all
if those were still the Type 2 variety.

Technically then, I guess this set (590) ties with set 374 as the first set
to
use Type 3 cylinders.  I'm sure there are others too -- like set 575
(another
1978 US only set) and many small sets.

Incidentally, the minifig was first released in 1978, not 1977 as I • stated
in my previous post.  The lugnet DB lists some early town sets with • minifigs
as 1977 sets, but all other media suggests that they are actually 1978 • sets.

590 was a 1977 set, and it has minifigs.

LUGNET lists it as a 1977 set, yes.  All information I have seen suggests
that
this is actually incorrect.  I think that some sets on LUGNET use the
copyright
date information from the instructions or box as the set's release date.
This
information sometimes differs from actually "release year".  Check out:

http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1978/c78us/c78us-13.html

Which clearly states that this set is new for 1978.  That is, new for the
US.
I can't find this set in a catalog from any other region.  I believe it was
a US only set, and thus there is no possibility that it was released in
another country a year earlier (but I could be wrong about that).

Also, check out:

http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1978/c78nl/index.html

This catalog from the netherlands shows many sets from 1978 with minifigs
in them.  Every single one is labeled "new".  Conclusion: the minifig was
released in 1978 (or to be specific: the 1978 Lego model year).

And if you are really curious about all this stuff (I find the history of
Lego quite fascinating myself :), check out Huw Millington's excellent (but
not quite complete) 1970's Lego Guide.

http://web.pncl.co.uk/~huw/lego/reference/1970s/1970home.html


Jeff



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  Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited
 
(...) I got that one, Mark. FYI! Scott S. (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
  Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited
 
Mark Koesel wrote in message ... (...) Why? Are you colored blind or somethin'? ;-) -- Have fun! John The Legos you've been dreaming of... (URL) weird Lego site: (URL) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)

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  Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited
 
(...) Whereas my 590 has solid studs. I got this set from a yard sale in the mid '80s. The only cylinders in the box were two yellow ones, all thee rest were missing. (...) 590 was a 1977 set, and it has minifigs. Jeff (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)

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