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    History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Gary R. Istok
   When I get some time, I want to generate an entirely new HISTORY OF LEGO WINDOWS document. But in the mean time, here are some brief updates...... Gary Istok ---...--- LEGEND CA= Cellulose Acetate - plastic used for windows from 1957-63. ABS = (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Tony Priestman
     On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Gary Istok (<38764639.1C68D50F@umich.edu>) wrote at 20:02:01 (...) Ahh. Happy memories. I could visualise each of these as I read. I had them all. In red and white ABS. With and without sills. In fact I can remember the point at (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Gary R. Istok
      (...) Thanks Tony, Glad I could add a little nostalgia to your day! There is another variation to add to this mix. That is the 1x1x1, 1x1x2 and 1x2x1 windows, which came with and without the plastic "glass". The without sill variety of these (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Jeff Stembel
      (...) These were also found in early '80s trains: 7727, 7730, and 7750 each came with two 1x2x2 windows; 7810 came with four. In addition, 7750 came with four 1x1x2 windows. Jeff (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Gary R. Istok
       (...) Thanks for the correction Jeff. As you can tell, I am not into LEGO trains! I also left out the 1x3x2 blue window (also a very rare window), also from an 80's train set. The LEGO Train system has, as it appears, the rarest of all classic LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Jeff Stembel
      (...) No problem! Always glad to help! (...) Oops, I forgot that one, too! The set is 7760, FTR. (...) Yeah, *early* train system. It is a real pain for those of us who want to get some of the ultra-cool pieces they used. *sigh* Jeff (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Remy Evard
     gistok@umich.edu (Gary Istok) wrote in <3879FD58.50B7BAB1@umich.edu>: <snip> (...) Speaking of which - when did the 1x1 cylinders switch from having complete studs to the crater look style? In the cylinders of course, it's not actually a crater, (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Tony Priestman
      On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Remy Evard (<8EB7E4871evardmcsa...gnet.com>) wrote at 04:27:45 (...) It's probably the same reason as minifig heads changed. The proposed reason is that it reduces the choking risk when small children swallow them. That doesn't (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Gary R. Istok
      (...) The date they switched from the Type 2 cylinders (without hole) to Type 3 was circa 1980. Someone with an intact Yellow Castle should check the yellow cylinders to see if they have the holes or not. The switch from Type 1 to Type 2 (remember (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Mark Koesel
       Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote in message news:387B5239.D3AADA...ich.edu... (...) was (...) I don't have mine handy, but I'm fairly certain that I recall the yellow cylinders in this set having hollow studs. This makes sense; hollow studded (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Remy Evard
     gistok@umich.edu (Gary Istok) wrote in <387B5239.D3AADAD3@umich.edu>: <snip> (...) Just popped the tower open on mine to check - they're solid. Type 2s. And also, the 1x1x1 bricks with holes on the side are the older style with square holes, not the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Gary R. Istok
      Hello Remy, Thanks for checking! See below for comments..... (...) That would mean that the cylinders without the holes were made as late as 1982. (...) A lot of AFOLs confuse this classic window (1x1x1) with the 1x1x1 brick with the holes on the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Mark Koesel
      Remy Evard <evard@mcs.anl.gov> wrote in message news:8EB8E1D63evardm...net.com... (...) This intrigued me so I went and checked mine out too. Mine are definitely type 3. This is not so surprising, since this set was released around the time of the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Jeff Stembel
      (...) Whereas my 590 has solid studs. I got this set from a yard sale in the mid '80s. The only cylinders in the box were two yellow ones, all thee rest were missing. (...) 590 was a 1977 set, and it has minifigs. Jeff (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Mark Koesel
       Jeff Stembel <aulddragon@wamalug.org> wrote in message news:Fo8C7x.71s@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) mid (...) were (...) Aha, of course -- set 590 Engine Co. No. 9. I actually have (or had -- can't remember if I sold that one or not) that set too. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Scott Edward Sanburn
       (...) I got that one, Mark. FYI! Scott S. (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —John DiRienzo
      Mark Koesel wrote in message ... (...) Why? Are you colored blind or somethin'? ;-) -- Have fun! John The Legos you've been dreaming of... (URL) weird Lego site: (URL) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Gregor Benedikt Rochow
      (...) No, 673 Rally Repair Crew from 1978 comes with all solid-topped cylinders, incl. trans-blue. (Also, the instructions for 374 show solid-topped cylinders, but that may not mean anything). Nice set; I remember the pleasant surprise of 1x3 clear (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Mark Koesel
       G. Benedikt Rochow <rochogb@eng.auburn....ethis.edu> wrote in message news:Fo8Jzu.7Jp@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) Wow, now that is strange. When were the trans-blue cylindars introduced then? I can't find any sets that came with these from before (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —John DiRienzo
     Mark Koesel wrote in message ... (...) This question about cylinders got started over in .castle. All of my Yellow Castles come with the type 2 cylinder (in yellow) whereas my 677/6077 Knight's Processions come with type 3 cylinders (in grey). Does (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Mark Koesel
      "John DiRienzo" <ig88888888@stlnet.com> wrote in message news:Fo8M8y.95u@lugnet.com... (...) 677/6077 (...) My 6077 has Type 3 cylinders (one in grey, one in yellow). (...) Yes. This would be the same case as with the 6075 (375) Castle. My copy has (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —John DiRienzo
       Mark Koesel wrote in message ... (...) Elsewhere on Lugnet recently, there was some talk about Lego copyrighting their models (and stickers, see the new Arctic stickers copyright date) a couple years in advance of releasing them. It is possible, I (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Remy Evard
     ig88888888@stlnet.com (John DiRienzo) wrote in <Fo8M8y.95u@lugnet.com>: (...) 677/6077 (...) Hmmmm. Check these out: 6077 - The US release: (URL) The picture clearly shows a type 3 grey cylinder. 677 - The European version: (URL) Inconclusive, but (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Alan Demlow
   You've actually left out a type of "classic" window--the 1x2x2 train windows that were available in just a few sets in the mid-70's (137, 164, 182, and 727). These aren't "classic" windows in the sense that they have the same type of frame-and-glass (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.general)
   
        Re: History of LEGO Windows...revisited —Gary R. Istok
   Well, maybe, maybe not. :-) It is one of those gray areas. Do I include car windows? Such as the 2x4x1.666 (the 1 brick and 2 plates high) double sided car windshields from the 70's? And then there's the clear bricks used as windows in the #310 Esso (...) (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.general)
 

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