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  More esoteric Lego history
 
Hi: With so many excellent recent Lego history posts I thought I would add my own 2 cents. This is information I have dug up while working on a Lego history website. My review of early Lego history has allowed me to construct a fairly complete (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Vintage Lego Commercials Online!
 
(...) (old) stuff that I was not even aware of.... Awesome! Gary Istok (21 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: What is ALE?
 
(...) I thought ALE was a warm place reserved for agnostics like Dave! JOHN (trying to keep up with your barbarisms, Dave!) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: What is ALE?
 
(...) Scott, you've just pointed out why I don't care for that acronym. AFOL is fine by me! -Dave (21 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: BimPCast for 3 June 2005
 
(...) Excellent listen, as always, Steven. The Bimpcast fills a needed spot in the realm of podcasting. -Dave (21 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!!
 
(...) Let's fill in the rest, shall we? "Due to the loss of our major sponsor, Instruction and Catalog scans are no longer available at Brickshelf.com." That says absolutely nothing about the (IMHO) more important issue of user pictures on (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE?
 
(...) LOL, probably won't help much against a good sharp broadsword either... ROSCO (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: what is ALE?
 
(...) Dave, I got a good chuckle out of your knucklehead comments. Very funny! Eric (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!!
 
(...) Umm, excuse me? To quote from here: (URL) to the loss of our major sponsor,..." Exactly what English definition of sponsor are you using? Clark PS As for 'interest', the galleries are still online, the approvals of member's pictures are still (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) <snip> Another great and extremely useful application from Bob Kojima. I use his parts catalog program all the time. -- Thomas Main thomasmain@myrealbox.com (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Vintage Lego Commercials Online!
 
In a post last September I wondered if the vintage Lego commercials shown at some Lego stores were available online. I haven't been able to find a source yet, but recently my good friend David Shifflett was able to capture a few on videotape. I've (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!!
 
(...) That's assuming that money is the problem. I'm not convinced of that, and Kevin certainly hasn't said so. In fact, he's said very little of anything at all, except that he may stop accepting uploads at some point. Of course I am only guessing, (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Me, Myself, and The Brick
 
howd all, well, I finished teaching my last Lego class for the University of Utah recently. Got my Masters degree and a fellowship to U Mich, so me and the fam and the lego are moving to Ann Arbor. I'd love to continue to teach Lego in that area, (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
 
  Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!!
 
(...) Brickshelf is already set up to accept monetary contributions. Details here: (URL) may donate with Paypal or mailed payment. Kevin even gives contributors some perks: 1) No adverts are shown to any veiwers of your folders ever. No adverts are (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE?
 
(...) That's a good point. If I were to hear a child described as "into trains," I would just assume that it meant Thomas, or maybe that he liked to watch his parents' train sets. More than being "accepted" as an adult hobby, I'd guess that it's a (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  BrickFest Hosts the “Build the Trust” Adult LEGO Enthusiast’s Model Contest
 
BrickFest Hosts the “Build the Trust” Adult LEGO Enthusiast’s Model Contest The BrickFest Team is proud to announce its participation in celebrating the LEGO Group’s 50th anniversary of its System of Play by hosting a competition for the adult LEGO (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.announce, lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.build.microscale, lugnet.events, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.general, lugnet.town) !! 
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Outside linking to images could be something to cut out. (...) What about a free will funds drive like Peeron did? That seemed to work out for them. Is it feasible? (...) This would definitely drop the BandWidth cost. Most internet providers (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Heh. I actually bought my kids about 50 pounds of legos off eBay. This was to let them have building blocks that were not Daddy's toys, er, Star Wars "Models". But we didn't have many instructions books. My son and I figured out which sets (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???)
 
(...) I could write: AFOL whose LEGOs are MOC'ed And my spell check gives: A fool whose legs are mocked. (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) IMHO another thing that I forgot to mention that gulps down a lot of space are pictures of official LEGO sets. I have got no idea why this is REALLY neccessary , since, if you want to inventory your collection, you've already got LUGNET, AND (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE?
 
(...) It certainly is interesting following this thread..... I was a secret "AFOL/ALE" from 1980-86. No internet, no knowledge of any other adult who even cared about Lego. I was in the proverbial "Lego Closet" for all those years. Then 4 things (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  RE: What is ALE?
 
(...) I thought ALE was a particular type of alcoholic libation. I don't drink much, so I don't know the difference between, say.. Stout, Ale, Beer, etc.. Scott (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???)
 
(...) I dare say in some cases it could possibly mean "Adult LEGO Extremist"... Scott (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE?
 
(...) OK, that was a low blow, I apologize! (...) Heh, true in that case, but that's because trains have become widely accepted as an adult hobby. LEGO has not. (...) Yes, and they'll be thinking: "This guy plays with LEGOs? Does he still live with (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Yeah, valid points. And I'm not really talking about cleaning out good stuff, or even ugly stuff. But upon inspection of my gallery, I may discover that I have 4 photos of basically the same shot. 3 of those could go away easily. Jake --- Jake (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I personally don't like it when people clean out their galleries. What you think is unimportant might be something really cool to me. I'm getting in the habit of saving pictures of stuff I like, but usually I just bookmark the link. Right now (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: what is ALE?
 
(...) Methinks he doth protest too much. Out with it-- that dirty little secret will eat you alive, Dave! <snip> (...) It may have been a little wily, but I categorically deny any nilly! If it ain't OT yet, I'll make it so, number 1! (FUTOTF) JOHN (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
In lugnet.general, Bob Kojima wrote: Someone asked: (how can one back up one's entire gallery on BrickShelf?) (...) Wow, what a great idea and what a nice thing to do for the community. Where do you want bug reports? (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Interesting idea! I'll check it out tonight. You know, I was thinking that it might be smart for all of us to do some spring cleaning on our Brickshelf galleries. I'd be willing to bet that we all have some extraneous images in our galleries (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) give this a try: (URL) About: A program used to back up your Brickshelf.com directory. Set the destination directory, enter the user ID name or the folder ID and press the get button. All the sub folders and files in the folders will be (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) As Joe said, I don't think the issue would be with the instructions themselves-- plus, the gallery is what generates the heaping swaths of traffic from what I understand. Not that the instructions don't generate their own heaping swath, it's (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???)
 
(...) "mock" is already a word, so I propose we pronounce it like "smoke" and "choke" ~Kevoh (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I'm not sure what a Bionicle avatar is, but I do agree that bandwidth is likely the major expense. (...) Right. And, while I'm not disparaging Kevin's efforts -- Brickshelf has been a valuable service to the community for years -- its (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???)
 
(...) Renaming be damned! I like old-school, old-time. (Eddie Shore!) Signed, An AFOL who builds MOCs who also may be a Curmudgeon, JOHN (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Actually, the instructions on LEGO's website only represent recent sets. These instructions compliment those hosted on Brickshelf because of Brickshelf's self imposed rule of not accepting instruction scans from current and recent (1-2 years (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???)
 
ALE is Adult Lego Enthusiast, a newer (and preferred by at least some) term over AFOL. It's easier to pronounce as an acronym, sounds less stilted when you say it in words, and is generally more accurate too. See (URL) for the thread where it was (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???)
 
(...) ALE is Adult Lego Enthusiast, a newer (and preferred by at least some) term over AFOL. It's easier to pronounce as an acronym, sounds less stilted when you say it in words, and is generally more accurate too. See (URL) for the thread where it (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) TLG's instruction database is pretty incomplete, though. For example, their themes list doesn't contain Pirates at all, and when I tested a particular Pirate set (6285, Black Seas Barracuda), they had no instructions for it. I think it's great (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
Ok, Lego does its own job of hosting instructions at: (URL) TLG was funding BrickShelf, I can see why they would drop this duplicate expense. My questions are: What instructions on BrickShelf are not duplicates of the TLG ones? Is TLG committed to (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Mall of America PaB
 
(...) The selection at the PAB is fairly poor. There are maybe 30-40 different bins and are usually 2x2 bricks and larger, wheels, rubber tires, and windows (windshields). Once in a blue moon, there may be some transparent parts. They do carry some (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Mall of America PaB
 
I've got a co-worker that will be visiting the Mall of America soon... Does anyone know what the current selection of parts/colors sold in the Mall of America Pick-A-Brick? Thanks! --Mike. (21 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.loc.us.mn)
 
  Re: Coming back from a darkage....
 
Hi Kishin, Welcome back! What's your favorite theme to build? Bruce (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  BrickFest NEWS!
 
Think this year is going to be the same ol' (URL) Think that you can put off coming a year? Well, we have some news that might make you reconsider! The BrickFest organizers have invited a number of representatives from the LEGO Group to attend, and (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.events, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.org, lugnet.people, lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.general, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) It's a new acronym that's being tossed around to replace 'AFOL'-- ALE = "Adult Lego Enthusiast" (...) I don't think disk space is really the issue so much as bandwidth. IIRC he filled up 2 T1's easily, which ain't cheap. People use BrickShelf (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Coming back from a darkage....
 
Thanks everyone for the welcome everyone and expect to see some MOCs from me soon ;) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
My comments for now: ALE - it is not here - (URL) idea what ALE is, I do know what a AFOL is. How about a free account with a certain amount of free pictures? That way one can have some few pictures there, and sort them if one wants to keep the (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: The Dark Ages of Lego in the USA
 
(...) Sounds fantastic, Gary. I'll certainly buy a copy of that. I think I can speak on behalf of ALEs everywhere when I say, thanks for your efforts. Best, - Joe (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: The Dark Ages of Lego in the USA
 
(...) There are several old advertisement and catalog scans available for viewing here: (URL) 1972 JCPenney catalog scan by David Shifflett is notable for the 1252 piece "bulk" set which Gary talks about. (URL) of these mail-order sets were not (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  LEGO® is near an agreement to sell its LEGOLAND theme parks
 
Financially troubled Danish toy maker LEGO® Holdings is about to sell four of the biggest bricks in its empire — its LEGOLAND theme parks. Danish media have speculated that Blackstone Group, a New York-based private equity firm is close to an (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: The Wikipedia Article
 
(...) Thank you for the correction. I joined the community back in about 1994 on RTL, and now that you mention it, I remember to have heard of an alt.toys.lego, although not more than hearsay. (...) Well, just do it. Wikipedia is a new encyclopedia (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
 
  Re: AoJT3: Johnny Thunder and the King of the Gypsies (Update May 30)
 
I finally finished the writing part of the story, and lets just say you're not quite halfway done reading yet... As such, so as to not drag this out forever, I've added another update for you all. (URL) whole gypsy-nominal story: (URL) Hope you like (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.adventurers, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Actually, (URL) sort of already does that, but in a much less comprehensive way. Legoswami (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Coming back from a darkage....
 
(...) This is very good news Kishin. It it is very good indeed to have you back. Hope to see some kick-ass MOCs from you!!!!! Legoswami (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: The Dark Ages of Lego in the USA
 
(...) Hey thanks for the Kudo's folks! I want Lugnet to be the center of the Lego universe, so I am doing my part to help facilitate this by giving you folks info that is just not found anywhere else. I like to play Sherlock Holmes with all the old (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Coming back from a darkage....
 
(...) Welcome back! (...) It's still there, just had to have a name change: (URL) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Coming back from a darkage....
 
I was in a dark age for the past 3 years :'( But I have come out of it after a visit to TRU which sparked my imagination. Well I was wondering what happened to brickbay? It seems to have shut down. Can someone please tell me what happened,it was (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  BrickFest news
 
I’ve gotten several email telling me that it's been a little quiet over on BrickFest. I can assure you, we are not slaking off. We are just getting all our ducks in a row. The contact us page is now working, as is the presentation form and MOC (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.events, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.org, lugnet.people, lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.general) !! 
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) That's true, but I for one still put my pics on Brickshelf, and link there from my site. This is partly because Northstar's free web hosting has a 100MB limit, but mostly because I like the idea of people being able to also search my gallery (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Well, that's a fine policy, unless BrickShelf is going away (or going to stop accepting new pictures or whatever). Kevin still hasn't been very clear on that. But if it does, then we need to think up a new solution. Best, Joe (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I swore not to get into this discussion, but... I am one of the persons who fall into the catagory of someone who owns their own LEGO-related website ((URL)). I made this site when I wanted something easier to customize than MOCpages or (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) That's very unfortunate, though. As Jason pointed out, it's easy enough to host your own pictures -- but there are great advantages to having them all in one place. When I want to find a good idea for making a sofa, for example, I go to (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I can see some times when people will want a high-resolution version available... but for the most part, when browsing (a big purpose for Brickshelf), it's best to have an optimized image, say no bigger than 800 pixels in any dimension. There (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Or you could go to: (URL) Anton (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Not to exploit the circumstances...
 
Not to be a vulture, but my company, Northstar Computer Systems, may be a good option for you if you want to make sure your site and images stay visible. We offer hosting starting at $10/month and support both Microsoft and non-Microsoft (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general) ! 
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I guess the main point I'm trying to make (and not doing such a good job about it) is that we're trying to come up with ways to help pay for Brickshelf without having all of the costs coming out of the owner's pocket directly. The ideal system (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I agree, but for a slightly different reason. Try living where broadband simply isn't available. There are still places in the US (and other countries I'm sure) that have not yet received broadband rollout. Try clicking on one of those (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) This has already happened. More and more, when people get serious about the online community, they get their own website(1). In order to keep up-to-date on MOCs, etc, I usually check four or five websites a day. -Lenny (1)= For example, (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I think the issue has always been that it just doesn't work in practice. I mean sure, I wouldn't mind paying a penny per picture, but actually having to go through both paypal AND the upload process, I dunno. It would create more of a bother. (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Hmm that's a good point. But I wasn't really trying to "weed people out" so I may have sent the wrong message! (...) Yeah that's a possibility - but the key point is that LUGNET memberships are lifetime memberships (if I remember correctly). (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Maybe I'm in the minority, but I would not be willing to pay $0.02 or even $0.01 per picture I put on Brickshelf. With that pricing scheme, I'd much sooner setup my own domain and pay for a website hosting. (...) I'd be suprised if anyone (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I think that this is a very important point. IMHO big images are just a waste of bandwidth (people get frustruated anyway when they realise the dimensions of the image, and hit back in disgust) as well as space. Also, delete unused accounts, (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Yes I would also support a free to view, pay to upload system on Brickshelf. I don't know how much work it would take to implement this, but you could have a monthly, quarterly, and/or annual subscription fee that may give you (un)limited (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: The Wikipedia Article (was: Re: About the term "AFOL")
 
(...) Updated a bit, under the 'community' bit, since RTL was really the second online community, being preceeded by ATL. There was mention recently about the Lego community in 1991 (in reference to the switch to 9V tracks), but I don't know if that (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
 
  The Wikipedia Article (was: Re: About the term "AFOL")
 
(...) OK, I went. And this is the result: (URL) with any Wikipedia article, everyone is free to correct or improve the entry. Yours, Christan Trezoks (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.faq)
 
  Re: The Dark Ages of Lego in the USA
 
<snip> Gary, thank you so very much for posting this. You've answered a couple of Lego questions I've had since the early '70s, namely why certain sets were listed in catalogs but not on actual store shelves. Thanks for doing this. It's quite useful (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Is there a way to download ALL files with folders in one single command or something like that? For example I want to download everything one user has. So that files can easily be transferred to maj.com. Thanks, Saso (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: The Dark Ages of Lego in the USA
 
In lugnet.general, Gerhard R. Istok wrote: SNIP a lot of interesting info (...) Y'know, I'm really glad your on Lugnet, Gerhard, because you really provide a wealth of historcal background on Lego, which in turn gives the hobby & community a lot of (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)  
 
  The Dark Ages of Lego in the USA
 
Just like many AFOL's/ALE's, USA Lego went thru the dark ages. Interestingly enough, it was around the same time I went thru my own dark ages. The years were the 1970's. In the beginning of the 1970's USA Lego sales were licensed to the Samsonite (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general) !! 
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I seem to be getting some decidely mixed signals. Should we be migrating our files? If Brickshelf is not going away, why tell us to go away? If uploads go away, Brickshelf becomes an archive only and is effectively dead for the future. If this (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general) !! 
 
  Re: MOCpages.com status
 
Ok, thanks for confirmation. I was wondering about the site's status, as it's my favorite LEGO website. (Next to LUGNET, of course :) )Congrats to the happy couple! -Josh (21 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Agreed. I havent looked much at maj.com, but there are tonnes of other pictures than lego. Micropayments on Bricklink could be the way. But - my opinion - it should be by used storages. Some people upload _huge_ pictures of sizes of e.g. 1MB - (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: AoJT3: Johnny Thunder and the King of the Gypsies (Update May 30)
 
Well its been a long time coming, but I've finally gotten around to making some more scenes for you all. I decided I'd better get around to finishing this story soon, or I never will (and besides I'm running out of gypsy adjectives ). I'm hoping the (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.adventurers, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Is there a reason why the major sponsor was lost? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't The LEGO Group itself sponsoring or co-sponsoring the instruction scans? Did this loss come with any warning? (21 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
I started downloading the instructions back in 1999. Whenever something new became available, I would download it. Slow and steady. Easy like Sunday mornin'. I doubt this bothered Kevin :) Along the way, I would replace brickshelf scans with better (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
Instructions: 6.5 gigs (all zip files). Some of these files also have box art. Catalogs: 1.25 gigs (all zip files) Most DVDs store 4.7 gigs. A double layer DVD (8+ gigs) would fit this all. "David "Fuzzy" Gregory" <crazylegoman@earthlink.net> wrote (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
The total is about 1 DVD and 3 CD's, if anyone is interested, please contact me by email the lot is also downloadable at: ftp://ftp.hobby.nl/p...rick/scans Bert (URL) Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> schreef in bericht (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I totally agree. It appears from the spolighting of your post, others do as well... (URL) I've carried your suggestion to LEGOFan.org> Felix (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) maj.com probably gets more ad revenue since its audience is wider and the ads are more varied. I'm not sure why that couldn't subsidize BS though... --Bram (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
Yeah, I'd be interested in instruction scans on a DVD. I never slogged through Brickshelf to build a DVD, because I didn't want to chew up KL's bandwidth. (...) -- Tom Stangl *(URL) Visual FAQ home *(URL) Visual FAQ Home (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) I'd certainly be for micropayments for uploading images. I don't know how many images are uploaded each day/week/month, but at $.01 each, I should think the income might add up, yet wouldn't break anybody. It'd be nice to keep the ability to (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: MOC Pages is OK, just down temporarily
 
(...) Jake said that MOC Pages is OK (URL) (see here)>; it's just that Sean Kenney is away on his honeymoon, so he can't fix the glitch that's got the site down. (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Just out of curiosity, how much data is that? Could it fit on a single DVD? David "Fuzzy" Gregory (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  MOCpages.com status
 
Sean Kenney, the owner/webmaster of MOCpages.com, asked me to send along an update note. Sean recently got married and went on what has to be the coolest and longest honeymoon - a trip around the world in 80 days still adventure. Unfortunately, (...) (21 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish) !! 
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
As a heads up, anyone in need of instructions or catalog scans can go here: The Brick Factory (URL) I have also downloaded every catalog and instructions scan from both bricksehlf and the Brick Factory. E-mail me with a request. "Steven Asbury" (...) (21 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) The web is wonderful but it ain't permanent or free. If the people who use brickshelf think so much of it (and I have always been impressed with it), then they should be willing to pay for a subscription to upload and download images. Or have (...) (21 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
In lugnet.general, Joe Strout wrote: snip 8< snip 8< (...) $60/year? I Never pay that much for a domain! I can't believe people still do! Here's where I shop: (URL) There may be better deals out there. If you're looking for a deal on hosting, try (...) (21 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away? Or: Can we take action to prevent?
 
(...) Eeesh, let us hope that this is not the case. Let this only be a duck and cover drill... Lugnet, Brickshelf, MOC pages are the three points of conjunction for all LEGO interests. This would be really bad, as in a death blow to the greater (...) (21 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) That is not necessarily true; brickshelf.com could run a simple CGI that redirects any queries to the corresponding location on maj.com. Since they seem to be running the same software and have the same URL structure, it would be pretty (...) (21 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Raised some good points. I had similar thoughts/feelings on reading the news. This is big, and it's bad. Don't forget we've already lost MOCPages (at least for the moment; I've crossed my fingers) So losing BS would be like losing a fat chunk (...) (21 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Brickshelf going away???
 
(...) Thanks, Kevin! That message about transferring files to maj.com made it sound like the galleries were going away, too. Is there anything we can do to help? I've already donated, but would be happy to add to my donation if there's a funding (...) (21 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)  


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