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| | | Subject: Can I use the LUGNET name or logo in my Web page / T-shirt / product / etc.? Topic-Level: 1 Content-Language: en Originator: Larry Pieniazek, 1999-03-05 Comment: get Todd's official line Comment: include not-a-lawyer disclaimer Location: (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) A boiled down answer (and I'd refer to the thread as authoritative) is that the word LUGNET should be followed by (tm) (or TM superscripted if you're using a font/display combination capable of same), and is OK to use if you're not implying (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | (...) ^^^^^^ (...) Todd also insisted that it be spelled in all caps. :-) (...) ^^^^^^ (...) ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ (...) I don't think a disclaimer of non-association is really necessary as long as the ALT attribute of the <IMG> tag bearing the logo says To (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Um, i was in a hurry? :-) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | (...) So how do you feel about "LUGnet"? (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) It does place the syllabic emphasis correctly, but it still looks very wrong to me, and I think it leads to people writing all sorts of other mis- capitalizations. I've seen all of these, for example: LUGNet LugNet LugNET and I think many of (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Whoops, I should clarify that... The problem with it is that although it places the syllabic emphasis on "lug," it still gives "net" its own prominence by its being a different type-case. That is, it greatly separates the two halves of the (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Hmm. That certainly seems to be the most natural pronunciation. But then again, I'd pronounc Lehman "Layman". :) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) I just saw "KPNQwest" in the headlines and it reminded me... Another reason the capitalization "LUGNet" is icky is because it has a higher chance of being mispronounced similar to "PSINet" and other similar names. If you remember those PSINet (...) (25 years ago, 14-Aug-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks both Todd and Larry. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Robert Munafo
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| | | | Why would you mention not putting AFOL and LUGNET on the same shirt? What's the connection? Is there some kind of general rule about mixing non-trademarks with trademarks? (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Because I remembered it... we had a pretty intense discussion about it at the time, and we respected Todd's wishes. Timeframe was February-March of this year. This post, while neither the start or the beginning of the thread, is a place to (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Hey, you almost make it sound like there was some kind of heated discussion/ argument/debate or something. I thought it was all very civilized, with mostly just questions and answers and things. (Were you holding back anger or frustration?? (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) prolly. I said intense because it was nuanced, not because there were hard feelings. I DID get a little frustrated at myself because every time I thought I had the nuances grokked and I restated what I thought I understood, I didn't quite have (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Er, ah... I mean THIS QUESTION, which deals with Todd's property rights... NOT the ENTIRE FAQ, although that's the way it read to me when I re-read it... (25 years ago, 17-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) Probably not worth mentioning. It's a personal thing. I cringe every time I see term AFOL because it looks like AOL and, as the person who coined it several years ago pointed out, it looks like "a fool." It also reminds me of at least two army (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | | | | | Re: autoFAQpost /general/~u.can_i_use_lugnet_name_or_logo.en.faq —Robert Munafo
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| | | | Thanks Todd, I get it now. It's good to hear from you since it's your trademark we're talking about (-: I happen to dislike "AFOL" personally because it reminds me of "SMOF", "secret masters of fandom", (which is a card in the Illuminati trading (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jul-99, to lugnet.faq)
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