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Re: BrickFest registration fees (was: LEGO Adult Fan Convention at Legoland California?)
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lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest
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Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:35:11 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
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In lugnet.events, Anthony Sava wrote:
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In lugnet.events, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
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In lugnet.events, Anthony Sava wrote:
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I’m sorry but the minute an organizer of Brickfest starts making money off
of the event itself, compensation or not, I’m not going. If this was the
case this year, I’m glad I didn’t go.
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If you feel you got your money’s worth (~$20/day) from the privilege of
attending and participating, does it really matter where the money goes?
Unless the event is stated as a charity event (which I don’t recall
BrickFest ever being billed as), I’m not concerned with the final
destination of registration fees. Just as long as the bottom line’s enough
to keep it happening year after year.
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Yes, it matters to me where the money goes. Why?
What do *I* get out of brickfest? I get discounted LEGO, see new LEGO
products, display my stuff, see other people’s stuff and talk to other LEGO
fans.
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So... I don’t get enough out of Brickfest to make it worth my while to go if
I know that my registration fee is not a simple reembursement of the cost of
running the event.
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I’m not following your reasoning linking what you feel you get (or don’t get)
and where your money goes. Nevertheless. To make a simple comparison, do you
eat at a fast-food restaurant, knowing that your money is not covering just
the cost of the ingredients?
There’s no difference between handing your money to a pimply-faced
15-year-old burger slinger and forking over $60 to attend BrickFest. You
receive value for either one, hopefully in proportion to the amount paid.
What happens to that money afterwards is irrelevant to you, since it’s no
longer yours. You traded it for something.
This is called “economics”.
To back up to another thing brought up, one of the things I recall Joe
talking about when he began setting up BrickFest ‘06 was that he also
wondered where the money went, and wanted his event to be more transparent.
I’m sure he’ll welcome this opportunity to provide numbers, when he gets a
chance.
Kelly
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I don’t work for the restaurant when I eat there. Thus this is not a valid
comparison.
Let’s look at it this way: A regular venue, say, a business expo, the attendees
are there for personal gain. They pay their entry fee and do their business
with profit in mind, whether it be selling their widget, making contacts or
buying a widget for their widget machine. Everyone’s happy.
However.
The Brickfest organizers put on this expo where they invite all these AFOLs to
attend their event. Why do the AFOLs come? Not for profit. They come to share
ideas, visit with friends and show off their creations.
Now let’s say for the sake of argument that the Brickfest organizers are making
a profit from Brickfest. Brickfest has now become no better than a zoo.
Brickfest invites AFOLs to attend. They pay their dues, part of which, as we’ve
decided for arguments sake goes right into the organizer’s pocket. Certain
AFOLs then decide to take on even more responsibility and volunteer their
services to do the Brickfest organizer’s job in organizing the different themes
of the event for no compensation.
And then Brickfest invites the public, who also pay their dues, to come see
what? The AFOLs creations, which would not be there if the AFOLs had not come.
So the public pays their dues, comes in and looks at all the animals in their
cages, I mean, AFOLs and their creations. A for-profit organization in this
situation is getting money from three sources: The public, The exihibits, and
the help (by saving money by not paying the help).
In essence, the attending AFOLs are making money for the Brickfest organizers
without making money for themselves. They are a perverted combination of zoo
exhibit, natural resource and employee.
A not-for-profit organization, however, would be getting a boost of
reembursement from the public, as well as reenbursement from the exhibits, and a
load off their backs by getting volunteer help.
The difference is a side-show versus a public exhibition.
That is my reasoning. Agree with it or not, you won’t change my mind.
--Anthony
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