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Re: ISD build record
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Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:25:53 GMT
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In lugnet.events, Holger Matthes wrote:
   In lugnet.events, Jan-Albert van Ree wrote:
   1 hour, 2 minutes and 28 seconds




The team (from left to right)

Holger, Jan, Jan-Albert, Eddie, Juergen, Hendrik, (Jan Beyer form LEGO. He stopped the time) Dominik, Ben, Andreas, Bruno



Hold on a second! A clarification in this post must be made. There are eleven (11) people in the picture and eleven (11) people named in the effort.

That means that 11 people completed the ISD build in 1 hour, 2 minutes and 28 seconds not 10. Is this true?

If true, that means this effort had 11 participants. Analyzing the effort I break the record down into per-person time units and discover the following:

A record of 1 hour 2 minutes and 28 seconds is equivalent to 3748 seconds of time. Divide 11 builders by 3748 seconds yields 0.0029 builders per seconds

The previous record of 1 hour 9 minutes and 22 seconds is 4162 seconds and dividing 10 builders by 4162 seconds yields a 0.0024 builders per second ratio. Clearly, 0.0024 is smaller than 0.0029 and therefore faster than this attempt.

If we were to factor in this attempt with the builders per second speed acheived by the BrickFest PDX record, then this group with their 11 person should have acheived a time of 4583.3 seconds or 1 hour 16 min and 23 seconds (11 men divided by 0.0024). Obviously, by using the 11th man, the latest attempt had an unfair 11th man advantage providing for 14 min in additional speed.

If we examined this using the man hour analysis we see that the BrickFest PDX attempt was still faster. In the 11 man attempt each person accounted for 340.7 seconds of the overall time (obtained by dividing 3748 seconds by 11 and assumes each person contributed equally). This equates to 5.678 minutes per man or 0.0946 man hours. The previous record attempt equated to 416.2 seconds per man or 0.1156 man hours.

While this second figure is bigger, realize that the 11 man and the 10 man groups performed the same task and we must account for the 11th man in the latest record attempt. If we subtract the 11th man’s contribution, we must recaculate the record attempt. To do so, I add the 11th man’s time portion to the overall time acheived by the 11 person group. This time, 340.7 seconds added to the record of 3748 seconds becomes 4088.7 seconds or 1 hour 8 min and 8 seconds.

While this time is faster than the BrickFest PDX attempt on the surface, any good mathmatician knows that you must perform the same function to both sides of the equals sign, so we must also subtract the 11th man’s contribution from the overall time of the PDX record to determine how fast they could have gone with the 11th man. To be fair we use the man hours average of the 10 person PDX record of 416.2 seconds per man. The 1 hour 9min 22 second time now becomes 3745.8 seconds or 1 hour 2 min and 25.8 seconds.

Obviously, the BrickFest PDX record still stands, when you consider the contribution of the 11th man in this last attempt.

Sorry fellows, I guess we will just have to asterix this 11 man attempt as a nice try.

Todd



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  Re: ISD build record
 
(...) SNIP of silly calculations (...) The eleventh man, Jan Beyer, is a LEGO employee who operated the stop watch. I wasn't there, I just read the list of names more carefully than you ;) ~Kevin (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.1000steine-land, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
  Re: ISD build record
 
(...) Todd, Some (not-so-serious) Questions from the mathematically uninitiated: 1) Does 'stopping the time' count as a contribution? Isn't there usually some sort of official timekeeper separate from the team to keep things honest? 2) Does (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jul-04, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.1000steine-land, lugnet.events.brickfest)
  Re: ISD build record
 
(...) <SNIP> Really? Subtracting on one side to make 10 and adding on the other to make 11 is not doing the same function on both sides. Just the maths pedant in me speaking, but last I checked, when doing statistical, numerical, any kind of (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.1000steine-land, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)

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  Re: ISD build record
 
(...) (URL) The team (from left to right) Holger, Jan, Jan-Albert, Eddie, Juergen, Hendrik, (Jan Beyer form LEGO. He stopped the time) Dominik, Ben, Andreas, Bruno Yeah, the record is back in Europe :-) On Sunday morning a around 10 a.m. the team (...) (20 years ago, 6-Jul-04, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.1000steine-land, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)  

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