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Re: Fed UP!!!!!!!!
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Date: 
Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:54:46 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Todd Lehman wrote:
In lugnet.general, Terry Prosper wrote:
I don't agree that it should be forgotten, forgiven and left behind us.
I like many others am still very upset about this change.

Hi Terry,

I'm still upset about it too.

Why should I shut up more than you?

Randall is probably as upset about hearing complaints from people like us as
we are about the color change.  The best thing we can do to honor requests
from Randall and others is to talk about it in the lugnet.color newsgroup
rather than in lugnet.general.  Think of it maybe as a support group too.

You are narrow-minded if you imply that your opinion about this matter is
more of value than ours.

I don't think he's saying that; I think he's just simply expressing the
emotions that he currently feels over the whole situation.  It seems natural
to me that a there would be people who aren't bothered by the color change
and/or just don't want to hear any more complaining.

That's why (well, one of the reasons why) we created the lugnet.color
newsgroup.

So I won't shut up.

Some good news and some bad news:  Good news is, you don't have to shut up
about it on LUGNET; feel free to use lugnet.color for any color-related LEGO
issues.  Bad news is, all of us who are upset by the color changes really
need to be a little more understanding of the people who are sick of our
incessant complaining.  In practical terms, what does that mean?  It means
shutting up about it in lugnet.general.

I hope you understand that your little rant about us insulting.

But I'll bet he didn't start composing the message with the intent of
insulting us; the nature of strong emotions is that we sometimes insult
other people in the process of getting something off our chest.

I hope you realize that people like you don't contribute to make the world
better.

And I'll bet you didn't start composing your message with the intent of
insulting Randall, right?

We lost, let's shut up and kiss the winner's @$$...  Well, Jake
may not be a "winner" in this case, but you get the point...

We lost, yes, and we'll continue to complain about it until we're blay in
the face, but regardless of whether insulting Jake helps us feel better,
I'm pretty sure that most people here would rather not continue to hear
personal insults aired publicly.

I don't thank Jake.  I still think he didn't so everything he could.  I
also think he's part of the problem, not the solution.  But that's just
my opinion and according to you, I should shut up because I don't make
you happy?  Poor you.  Now who's the crybaby?

When I look at Randall's message, at first I see him asking everyone to
shut up already about the color change.  But really, I think he's asking
that he simply please not have to hear about it anymore.  I think Randall
and others would consider it acceptable if complaints about colors didn't
cease per se but simply took place in groups that they don't read, e.g.
lugnet.color.

--Todd

[xfut => lugnet.color]


Words of wisdom.  Although I don't think that it is such a good thing to limit
the subject to a newsgroup (lugnet.color) because it is the MAIN subject for
many and it is an important enough topic to be in general, although I get the
point that it is flooding the newsgroups...

I don't think (or dont recall would be more correct) I insulted Jake per se.  By
saying that I don't believe he did everything he could, I'm not insulting him.
I did, however, say many times that it was a stupid move.  Maybe I said HE was
stupid also, I don't really care for a link to my actual previous posts from
readers, but I have nothing against Jake except for his role in the color
change.

Still, I'm upset about more that the color change.  I'm upset about LEGO
attitude towards us and this issue.  That is a more important problem for me and
the fact that this community doesn't seem to want to stand together on the issue
is dramatic to me.

Terry



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(...) I guess I was making an assumption about what you meant. When you said, "Jake may not be a 'winner' in this case, but you get the point," I thought it meant that you were implying he was a loser. (...) I'm actually halfway astounded that 99.9% (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jul-04, to lugnet.color)  

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