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Re: Robert Jordan WOT (was Re: Harry Potter Lego Line)
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Date: 
Sat, 15 Jul 2000 21:27:15 GMT
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Erik Olson wrote:

In lugnet.general, Mike Petrucelli writes:

[coughing] rip-off [end coughing]
Can you say Two Towers the second book of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.  Any
other medieval fantasy is pretty much a rip-off of Tolkien's work.  While it
may not be the best reading it did define the whole concept of wizards, eleves,
orcs, ect.

While Tolkien has no equal, I take exception to your statements. There are many
"medieval fantasies" that are not derivatives of Tolkien, but the demand for
them wouldn't exist if not for Tolkien. Undoubtedly there are some less original
imitations. But, Tolkien re-packaged these things for our time, he didn't invent
them.

Absolutely right.  On the other hand, the reason why Tolkien's stuff is so much
better than the scads of imitators is because it's a 'first-generation copy' rather

than second or third.  Tolkien did such extensive research into the reality of life

and language and travel and such, which is what makes his world seem so real.
The research of so many other authors seems to be 'read Tolkien, AD&D, and
each other' which means that they get progressively farther from their roots...
and progressively worse.

(For some good medieval fantasy that's *not* ripped from Tolkien, try George
R.R. Martin's _A Game of Thrones_ and sequels.  Other book recommendations
can be viewed at my LUGNET member page:

http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/?m=336

If you read any, let me know what you think...)


J



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  Re: Robert Jordan WOT (was Re: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
A friend of mine suggested the Coldfire trilogy by C.S. Friedman. Black Sun Rising Crown of Shadows When True Night Falls Give 'em a read. They're excellent. ~Mark (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.castle)
  Re: Robert Jordan WOT (was Re: Harry Potter Lego Line)
 
(...) Right on target! George R.R. Martin seems to be a "writer's writer" because I hear his name from people on author panels and invariably nobody in the room recognizes it! Since you said it again I must now look him up! You know what is funny (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.castle)

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(...) While Tolkien has no equal, I take exception to your statements. There are many "medieval fantasies" that are not derivatives of Tolkien, but the demand for them wouldn't exist if not for Tolkien. Undoubtedly there are some less original (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jul-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.castle)

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