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(...) Is that an educated guess of a figure? ;) (...) Yeah... .mpl (Multi-Part LDraw) ? (...) Agreed. (...) That would be a good thing. The only argument I see against changing them is tradition, to which I say, 'poo.' -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think he was being sarcastic. Project is probably installed on 4000 times as many PCs as all the LDraw compatible tools put together. If you do anything that has to be planned, you can't live without Project and there really isn't a good (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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It would be really cool if programs like MLCad allowed plugins to be installed. This way, utility authors could write their utility as a plugin and have it installed so a user could work with his model from one program. Just an idea to throw out, (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) LDraw Group? LDraw Organization? LDraw Foundation? (...) Hmmm, original software only, or original software including our updates? LDraw? LDraw Suite? LDraw Package? (...) Official ldraw.org Parts Updates. (...) LDraw Compatible (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm. that makes me wonder if the logic of turning of BFC clipping when a part's color is transparent will really work. Because a part may have the main color as 16, and some sections are hard-coded to a transparent color. In this case, the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I don't mold plastic for a living but I think when you design plastic parts you have to design what you want to actually get, to a very high tolerance, and then you have to design the mold, which will have DIFFERENT dimensions than the desired part, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
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[snipped other ng's from reply, although it was a toss-up between lcd and lcdol] (...) There are at least three different concepts to be differentiated-- "The Organization Formerly Known as L-CAD" "the LDraw suite of tools that JJ developed (as (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[restricted reply to lugnet.cad.dev] (...) It's because LEdit supplies the .DAT when you type in a new part number. Parts.lst is only used to display the parts list when you press P<enter>. Similarly, we're stuck with leaving the ldraw directory (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[restricted reply to lugnet.cad.dev] (...) And if you type in a part number, LEdit adds the .DAT to make the file number. Steve (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss wrote in message ... (...) Remember BFC must be disabled for transparent parts. That's what If 32 <= Color And Color <= 47 Then AccumClip = FALSE takes care of. Frankly I can't think of any situations where double-sided sections are (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Creating Illustrator like files
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Hi all, With MLCad you can print out the models, right? It seems like the output is some postscript or vector drawing. Would it be possible to (directly!) convert the LDraw-file format in an Illustrator-like vector format? Now we would, or could, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) Correct. I like the phrase 'The LDraw System' identifying the original .dat format and the programs which use the 'System.' [1] (...) Obviously .dat files have become integrated with part files. I like .ldr or .ldm for 'LDraw Model.' .mpl for (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney wrote: <Good questions. Which I snipped.> In my opinion: A name is needed to identify the concept of "formated to be compatible with LDraw and LEdit, as extended". This name needs to be separate from the concept of "the LDraw suite of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That would be great! I'm not sure if Jacob would want someone else's CGI running on the server, why not ask him. Here's the correct link: (URL) you'd like, just work with the fields (I believe they're commented in the HTML source) and we'll (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I could do a form and/or a cgi to go with it. I am an expert with cgi and html etc. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Looking for part SWENGINE.DAT
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James Wilson wrote in message ... (...) I believe it is in the current vote awaiting release. Its release wil be soon enough to patient people. (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes. (...) Personally, I think the term 'ldraw.org' refers to the actual website. The group of people could remain 'L-CAD' if desired, or 'The LDraw Organization,' or something completely different. On the site, I refer to ldraw.org as the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Does it really? I thought it all came from the parts.lst file and the program referenced that. Or...is it because that's what the program starts up with? -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I see what you mean. ledit has encoded references to parts (the 2 x 4 brick springs to mind) that cant be changed. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes. (...) Try using terms like: LDraw -- a (mostly historical) software package for creating LEGO-type models on your computer. ldraw.org -- the group formerly known as the L-CAD mailing list. A (very) loosely organized group of people, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Dave Schuler <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:FMHE1n.Dp@lugnet.com... (...) DAT (...) There's no limit. We asked Todd about this a while back and he said post away. (...) No, it would not. Per the charter of cad.dat.* groups, only .dat (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I'm working on a largish DAT file, and I'd like to post it when I get it completed. Is there a limit, etiquette-based or otherwise, on how large a DAT we can post here? Would it be okay instead to post a link to the DAT in cad.dat-files? Dave! (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) All right then. Is there one in the works anywhere? Dave! (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Just in case someone else is looking for it, it's 30360.dat. (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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LDraw is the original program that writes (one form of)* .dat files. All the other programs that write this type of .dat file are 'LDraw compatibles'. How's that? * i believe .dat is a fairly common extension used for lots of stuff. John Matthews (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) no. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I don't have contact with his family, but I believe James' old rivtron@... address still works. I would like to see a picture as well. If someone would like to give me his family's address, I will write. If someone else would like to write, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I think that ldraw should refer to the ldraw program and the all the official parts then we refer to all the other tools as ldlite or mlcad or whatever I think we should keep the .dat extension for ldraw files -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi Tim! One other thing... You mentioned in another group about James' background and history. One thing I would like to see is a picture of him. Can you contact his family or put feelers out. I think that would be an excellent item to add to his (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: What is 'LDraw?'
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(...) Hi Adam! (...) Right. (...) We could keep the parts .dat and make new models .ldr (or .ldm - LDraw Model), or we could also change parts to .ldp (LDraw Part), just to distinguish the difference. (...) Yeah, I'd really like to see LDraw II come (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Is there currently an official or semi-official DAT file for the large brown doors found in, among other sets, the Samurai Stronghold? Thanks in advance, Dave! (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi Tim! Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:4.2.0.58.199912...omm.com... (...) format. (...) include (...) their (...) LDraw is James' software package. It will always be that. It's like 3D Studio Max or Adobe Photoshop, they have (...) (25 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | What is 'LDraw?'
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Because of some of the more recent advancements in software which utilizes the .dat file, I have been thinking about what LDraw *is*. I think we should firmly establish what LDraw is if there are going to [and there will] be more advancements in (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Sometimes, transparent parts have decorative printing. And the LDraw library should be written so that modelers can use any part in any color, even if LEGO hasn't released that part/color combination yet. Decorations on transparent parts shows (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Partsref is Moving to LUGNET
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(...) Yah. Keeping my _sed & awk_ and _Programming Perl_ within reach isn't a matter of life and death -- it's much more important than that. But make is really a simple tool. I wonder just how useful an entire book for it would be. The last one I (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Looking for part SWENGINE.DAT
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I'm looking for part SWENGINE.DAT that shows up in several model DAT files posted on LUGNET (for example, Pat Justisson's Tantive IV -- that's the only one I can remember author and subject off-hand). Can someone point me to the correct web site or (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh, I dunno about O'Reilly... :-) Their stuff is spotty. It varies from good, up through Insanely Great, all the way to YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THIS BOOK. I wish they'd just pick a quality level and stick to it. :-) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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Steve Bliss wrote in message ... [ ... snip ... ] (...) There is a very good Make book available from O'Reilly & Associates, _Managing Software Projects with Make_. I have found that this book always seems to have an example for something I was (...) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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| | Re: Line in the Sand
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Steve Bliss wrote... (...) OK. The pseudo-code reflects this now. (...) I meant "The fact that 0 BFC CERTIFY implies 0 BFC CLIP and 0 BFC CCW should be stated explicitly in the CERTIFY section in Language Extensions". The code was clear enough. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Seems Geocities is having some trouble, and the shortcut URLs won't work. Try these instead: (2 URLs) Steve (25 years ago, 6-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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