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Re: Is the LDraw parts database free?
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Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:36:43 GMT
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Leonardo Zide <leonardo@centroin.com.br> writes:
> You forgot that there's a DOS emulator for Unix
Yes, but most people would probably prefer not to install DOSEMU or a
similar program unless they have to.
> and you don't need to run the .EXE files, they are ARJ self
> extracting archives so running "arj x file.exe" will extract the
> files as well
Ok, I've never heard this before, and it's not in the FAQ. But now that
I know, this is valuable information.
> (and arj can be easily found for Linux systems, it's even included in
> RedHat).
Yes, unarj seems to be on my system as well. I just tested the
lcad9905.exe archive, and it appears to work well. Great! That's one
less reason to keep DOSEMU installed.
> I guess that I've said this 100 times but I'll repeat it once again:
I've never heard it before and it's not in the FAQ.
> When I asked James to let me use his parts, he told me that I could
> use them in any way I want as long as I didn't redistribute his files
> directly, I should tell people to get the files from his page.
I wouldn't want to argue with that. And I think that the format of the
parts database is probably still the intellectual property of James
Jessiman's immediate family. But what about parts contributed by
others?
> Of course, we are on a totally different situation now
You mean since the parts database has been moved to
<URL:http://www.ldraw.org/> or something else?
> but you don't have to worry about Unix users.
The UNIX users weren't my worry, I just used it as an example.
What worries me is the legal situation of the LDraw parts library. This
is a very valuable database containing hundreds of hours worth of work
contributed not only by James Jessiman, but also by numerous other
people.
Since lots of people have contributed to this database, and probably
will continue to do so, I think it is important to clarify what the
terms of use of the library is. I, for one, do not want to contribute
any more parts until this issue is clear, and I regret not having
brought it up earlier.
I could probably think of many reasons why this issue needs to be
discussed, but it's a little bit late right now. I'll just rant a bit
before I go home:
What if somebody makes a LEGO CAD program, uses all the community
contributed parts in the LDraw database, publishes it and earns a lot of
money. Would that be ok? (Of course, they would have to refrain from
using the LEGO name, to avoid a LEGO Company lawsuit.)
What if someone makes a public domain or GPL or open source CAD program
and distributes it with the LDraw parts, possibly changed in some way?
Can someone use L3P or something similar to make a POV-Ray library of
the LEGO parts from the LDraw library and ship this with POV-Ray? Or
can a major, commercial 3D CAD system sell a similar library to it's
costumers?
What if somebody makes an artwork using renderings of parts from the
LDraw database and publishes this. Is it acceptable?
Can I use rendered parts from the LDraw database in illustrations and
sell them? Use them on my homepage?
Fredrik
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| (...) I thought everybody knew that. :) (...) This is not the kind of thing that would be in the FAQ. I just said that because I was probably the only person who ever asked permission to use the LDraw library in another program. Maybe Tore had the (...) (25 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| (...) You forgot that there's a DOS emulator for Unix and you don't need to run the .EXE files, they are ARJ self extracting archives so running "arj x file.exe" will extract the files as well (and arj can be easily found for Linux systems, it's (...) (25 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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