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Re: Several replies to CLIPPING / WINDING
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Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:06:59 GMT
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Steve Bliss wrote:

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:05:37 GMT, Rui Martins <Rui.Martins@link.pt> wrote:

You didn't knew in the past, because you didn't have the 0 INVERT
meta-command. So you can only assume it' NOT inverted.

No.  With current files, you don't know, so you can't assume anything.

  Sorry, you are right here. I allways think in some form of winding (CW
  or CCW) so this one slipped me, once again sorry, you are right.
  Can't assume nothing.

If for some reason, it is inverted, then the old .DAT file was wrong,
and should be corrected.

No, inversions are common.

  what I said was relative to my way of thinking, without the previous
  sentence, doesn't old up.

  Man, that was a lousy afternoon !  8b

You can't expect the new renders to be retro-compatible, but when in
retrocompatible mode, to provide the same NEW functionalities that they
were built for, as in the new design mode.

Right.  So non-wound-up files can't be backface culled.  I don't see what
you're getting at here.

I would say, that an old file, should not use references with inverted
matrixes, or you won't be able to have a retrocompatible format.

But we don't get to specify what the old files are allowed to look like.
We only get to deal with them as they are. :(

but if you really, really, want this, you can inforce this on the
renderer:

/* for a specific reference in this file do */
if ((this file is NOT optimized) and
    (this file has reference, with an inverted, matrix to another file))
{
  ClIPPING commands should be ignored in all files referenced down
  through this tree branch.
}

Nope.  Whether the subfile's matrix is inverted or not, you can't assume
the intention was to invert the subfile.  Or not.

Now this is getting really backwards compatible. 8)

Yep.  That's the most important requirement.

Agreed.


Rui Martins



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(...) No. With current files, you don't know, so you can't assume anything. (...) No, inversions are common. (...) Right. So non-wound-up files can't be backface culled. I don't see what you're getting at here. (...) But we don't get to specify what (...) (25 years ago, 20-Oct-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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