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Re: MOTM Contest Questions and a Proposal
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:38:08 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Jim DeVona wrote:
&In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Willy Tschager wrote:

In either case, I propose that the contestant LDraw files be made available to
voters as part of the ballot. This requirement would have two advantages.
Firstly, it would allow voters to incorporate substantive criteria in their
decision by inspecting the structure of the actual LDraw file (after all, this
is an LDraw contest). Secondly, it would be an excellent opportunity to
encourage LDraw "best practices.; As the LDraw format itself moves towards
standardization, why not emphasize the value of well-designed models?

this is a critical point. not everyone wants give away in-depth info of his/her
models fearing that people copy and sell them.

How is this different from photographers sharing high-resolution images of their
work on Flickr, or developers contributing to open-source programs? I would
argue that with the original material available for others to compare, it is
even easier to prove (and discourage) instances of theft. If the original work
is widely publicized and properly attributed (as is the case with LDraw.org
contests), the whole community can help recognize rip-offs, to say nothing of
learning from the entries.

In any case, I am curious to see the numbers that substantiate this position.
Has this happened with LDraw.org contests in the past? What gets sold, the LDraw
file itself? An entire clone brand product line based on the model? One replica
among friends?

Personally, I think the sharing of LDraw models is an issue that bears close
inspection as LDraw.org seeks to encourage more participation in the contests
and the community in general. Do the risks of robbery really outweigh the
benefits of showcasing well built models? Perhaps, but I hope not.

Well, how about this. Among contestants who do choose to share their models, are
the LDraw files made available at ballot time? (I can't find the record of
previous contests, so I'm not sure.) Surely that can be done.

As the person who wrote the current rules here's my reasoning behind this.

The issue is not the fear of models being sold or something like that, it is
simply not forcing someone to do something they don't want to do.  The MOTM
contest doesn't get enough entries as it is and requiring the release the LDraw
file may turn off someone who otherwise would have entered.  Entrants may have a
reason they don't want the file public (be it good or not) and since the contest
can still run without it public, I feel that not in our best interest to deny
the right to keep the file private.

That said, there is certainly no rules or criteria that tell you how to vote.
In fact you can decide who to vote for any way you choose and if not having the
LDraw file is a big issue for you, don't vote for models where the file is
private.

-Orion



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(...) How is this different from photographers sharing high-resolution images of their work on Flickr, or developers contributing to open-source programs? I would argue that with the original material available for others to compare, it is even (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)

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