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Re: Avro Arrow Movie
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Tue, 11 Jun 2002 19:54:55 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, David Koudys writes:
> In lugnet.build.military, Joel Jacobsen writes:
> > In lugnet.build.military, Bryce Rollins writes:
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> I have the original Canadian aired version on 2 VHS tapes. It was shown
> across 2 nights, each night was 2 hours, for 4 hour total viewing.
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> I don't have 2 VCR's to 'dub' tapes, but would be willing to look into doing
> something if there's a demand.
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> I don't know if the Fox version was 4 hours long--I somehow doubt it.
Wow. Uh...no..it was 2 hours plus commercials. So a lot of it was clearly
deleted.
> When I first watched it, I was pretty proud to be Canadian, for the most
> bit. I have heard of the history of the Arrow before the show, but seeing a
> 'docudrama' on it was great.
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> I like the part when they threw the paper airplane and Dan said, 'keep
> that--that's top secret'.
That was a great line, I loved that one too. :)
> It's also weird to know that stupid politicians are stupid the world over.
Well..I wouldn't call it wierd.. I thnk it just goes with the territory. Job
requirement or something. <G> But I digress, I don't want to get into a
political debate at all, let alone in .military.
> A few more points--when this miniseries aired here in Canada, the national
> papers ran a bunch of editorials and articles about the Arrow with pictures.
> It wasn't all great--the landing gear broke once on trials and there was a
> problem, as stated in the movie, the fuel 'boiled in the wings...'.
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> But what a jet!
Every program has some growing pains (B1, anyone? cough) -- even the F22 had
some test flight mishaps - ground effects buffeting affecting the flight
computers to the degree the pilot just belly landed it..but saved it(that
was an amazing bit of footage!). But indeed! What a jet. For 1959 it was
truly a Buck Rogers kinda plane.
> What you also might have missed in the Fox version (and wasn't overtly
> stated in the Canadian version) is that the engineers and other people in
> the Arrow project were snatched up by all the American Jet manufacturers, as
> well as the American space program when the Arrow was cancelled...
Yeah..they mentioned that in the movie...guys from North American and Boeing
where handing out business cards..and before the credits they indicated that
the guy that was chief designer went to NASA and helped spearhead the US
space programs... Gemini and Mercury as I recall it saying..
> > So if you say that soem American jetfighters look remarkably similar to the
> Arrow, there's a reason for that :)
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> As well, the Arrow's design hid the bombs and missles inside a bomb bay. I
> know that the Arrow was a 'bomber' but it wasn't until the F-22 fighter that
> the fighter jets put the munitions inside the plane, instead of hanging them
> on the outside.
Actually before that...the B-58 Hustler had a weapons pod (and
shockingly...an airframe) that were quite similar to what was described in
the movie for the Arrow. The diff in the Hustler is that it was bigger and
used 4 engines in pods under the wings, but the delta wing design is
definitely similar. It was a Convair craft and while they weren't mentioned
in the version I saw as trying to recruit, I wouldn't doubt some Arrow
'lineage' being in it somewhere. :)
It's a shame, really, but at least we can say that the forward thinking of
the minds at Avro did not just go to waste, even if their original vision
didn't truly see the full light of day.
Thanks for the reply, David. I'm glad to know they devoted more time to the
plane than it looked in what was on Fox. While good, it did feel like there
were 'holes' that needed more filling.
Joel J
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