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Re: Vought F-4 Corsair
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Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:41:57 GMT
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An excellent model, in a number of ways. I agree about the wings
being too short, but I think you did a great job of capturing the
angles at the base of the wings, which is probably the hardest part of
the Corsair.
One note about nomenclature however... It is not an "F-4". That is
the Phantom jet fighter of the Vietnam era. The correct term is F4U.
The Navy used a really stupid (IMO) naming scheme for their planes in
the 40's and early 50's. The first one or two letters designated the
type of plane (Fighter, in this case), and then a number and letter
indicating the individual model and manufacturer, in that order. The
"U" indicates that it was made by Vought, and 4 indicates that it was
Vought's 4th fighter. If there were multiple versions of a given
model they were indicating by adding a number to the end, such as the
F4F-1, F4F-2, etc.
Also, the F4U was not the only F4 during WWII. The F4F Wildcat was
made by Grumman ("F" stands for Grumman, go figure), for example.
The model I made was a PB4Y-2: "PB" for Patrol Bomber, "Y" for
Consolidated (those abbreviations never made sense, I imagine you're
starting to realize), and 2 for the second version of the PB4Y.
Consolidated's first patrol bomber was the PBY Catalina, for
comparison, though it is completely unrelated to the PB4Y.
During the same time the Navy was using this scheme, the Army Air
Corps (later known as USAF) was using a scheme more like the present
one, except that fighters were "P" for "pursuit". So the P-38 or P-51
was the 38th or 51st fighter model, and the manufacturer wasn't
included in the name. Instead, letters appearing after the number
indicated versions of that model.
Around the time that the War Dept. became the Defense Dept., and the
Army Air Corps became the USAF, both USAF and USN standardized on the
present system, using "F-" for fighers, with any suffix indicating the
version of the model, not the manufacturer. In the 1960's, they reset
the "counter," since they were getting into the hundreds.
--Bill.
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William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/
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| (...) <snipped really good history on US aircraft numbering schemes> Bill -- Thanks for the refresher on this. I knew about the AAC/USAF but had actually forgotten about the Navy's approach (and why.. well at least HOW.. will anyone ever understand (...) (23 years ago, 23-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.military)
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| My latest creation is a Vought F-4 Corsair. This is my first attempt at a real WW2 color scheme, and I'm quite pleased with the results. I used every single blue slope I own in the Corsair's long nose. Unfortunantly, I sacrificed a few details in (...) (23 years ago, 19-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.military)
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