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Re: Bofers Quad 40 and Tanks updates
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Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:55:43 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.build, Daniel Siskind writes:
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> > http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/war/Bofers.html
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> Wow. Wowowowowowow. Dan, that's *beautiful*. The
> tanks are always great, but the 40mm mount is the
> real star of this update. But then again, I'm biased. ;)
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> I'm especially impressed that it's in actual minifig
> scale and not compressed. I've given some thought to
> making just a standalone 12.7cm mount just to go to
> "real" minifig scale, and I think you've just made
> me think about it yet again. This really came out
> beautifully.
Perhaps I'm being unrealistic, but I've scaled my plans to match the minifig (1
stud = 1 foot or 4 x 8 plate = 4 x 8 feet). The mounting may actually be
slightly too big, because my plans were blown up from a really tiny drawing.
Your own cruiser is already so big that it probably wouldn't be too big of a
leap to make it minifig scale!
> A couple of questions (and, alas, one nitpick):
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> -How much elevation and depression do you get on the mount?
It goes down to about minus 30 degress, but only elevates to about 65-70 degress
before the ammo release handles hit the back of the mounting.
> -Have you considered how you intend to build the "tub" that
> always accompanied such mounts on US warships? (I ask
> because this is a problem that vexed me, and I finally
> took the easy way out with saucer bottoms--which you won't
> be able to do owing to the size of your platform there.)
> A related question is "how do you plan to fix it to the deck?"
> If there is some way to make a click link to the base that
> would be ideal, but I found that 2x2 turntables meant a lot
> of collecting shed 12.7cm mounts every time I moved the
> ship.
The platform will be a standard plate and tile job shaped to the approximate
dimension of the circular base. The side walls will be circular, either made up
from alternating 1x3 bricks/plates and 1x1 round bricks/plates (staggered as
they increase in height) or else made up up completely of 1x4 hing bricks/
plates, depending on the radius of the particular mounting/tub.
It will be fixed to the deck with a 2x2 turntable. If there is no woble in the
construction (for example tiles around the turntable) then the connection is
remarkably strong. I discovered this when building my Sherman kit as the whole
turret assembly is connected with a single 2x2 turntable and it's almost
imposible to break the connection with the hull floor. I've posted a quick
snapshot of how I did it on the Quad 40 here:
http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/war/Quad40e.jpg
> -I assume the barrel banks are linked, but how "tight" are
> they? Are they only moved by hand, and is it reliant on
> good balance for stability or are the friction pegs enough?
The inside pivot point of each mount is the 1x2 technic brick with axle hole, so
there is actuall a technic axle connecting one side to the other. The outside
pivot point is the standard technic brick and connects to the mount with a
friction pin. While the model is generally in balance, two friction pins will
hold the gun's position even when not in balance, like this picture:
http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/war/Quad40g.jpg
> I recalled your original project was to build a battleship;
> was that shelved with an eye to making a ship in true minifig
> scale or do you anticipate compression?
I may have mentioned building a battleship, but I think parts cost has detoured
my plans to a much more affordable model size.
> Man, is that ever beautiful. Excellent work as always, Dan.
> I really can't wait to see which cruiser you settle on building,
> and then to see the beast evolve.
I'm building a Cleveland class crusier, but you may notice the models I've
worked on so far would also work on an Essex Class carrier (in case I suddenly
become independently wealthy!).
> best
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> LFB
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> (Oh yeah, the one wee nitpick: it's spelled "Bofors." ;) )
> XFUT -> .build.military
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| (...) To be "minifig scale" the ship would have had to be 22 feet long. That's a little bit big, unless I buy a minivan. ;) (...) That's always the limiting factor. It was for me, too. (...) mass of the mount, I'll be interested to see how it pans (...) (24 years ago, 16-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.military)
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| (...) tanks are always great, but the 40mm mount is the real star of this update. But then again, I'm biased. ;) I'm especially impressed that it's in actual minifig scale and not compressed. I've given some thought to making just a standalone (...) (24 years ago, 15-Feb-03, to lugnet.build, lugnet.build.military)
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